Seventy percent of Americans support 'Medicare for all' in new poll

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  1. Kode

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    OK, now THAT is a supportable argument!

    You're right, and you are talking about preventative healthcare, which in this case means educating people about healthy eating and organizing to demand with power that the government ban the use of hydrogenated oil in foods as well as high fructose corn syrup, and get soda and junk food vending machines the hell OUT of schools! Then get DeVos out of office and replace her with someone who knows something about effective education best practices. That would be a start, eh?
     
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    Because YOU don't want them to go untreated but don't want to pay anything toward it? LOL!!!!!! Why is the right so damned greedy and selfish?
     
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    Why is the left so greedy and selfish in demanding other people to pay for their chit????
     
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    If you are not in marketing/advertising, you should be. Your skills at vague, emotional charged statements, and finding data to fit your conclusions, even if it comes from questionable sources, are truly astounding.
     
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    All the Billionaire Leftists who support this idea, should voluntarily tax themselves at 90% to fund the 3.2 Trillion extra per year necessary to be added to the 4.1 Annual Federal Budget.

    Also, the illegal violent criminal aliens, such as Muslim knife and acid attackers in London, that Facebook so adores, while censoring conservatives exposing their violence, can be sent to your estates for free housing, welfare, tend your gardens, your farms, and live in your house, eat your food, and kill your daughters instead of the rest of Americas rural small town naïve young women. They can kidnap your children and build an underground tunnel to be taught Islamic hate of western civilization, and become school shooters in your elite private schools instead of our public schools..

    start with Maxine Waters 3 million dollar estate, to house the homeless people living in the district she represents but does not herself actually live in.
     
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    Why should such assistance be provided to those who are in the united states illegally, and why should any portion of the assistance come from the public?
     
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    I support Medicare Part A and B for all, however, I figured out the cost, and both Sanders and rightwing’s calculations are wrong.
     
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    Fantasy.
     
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    What is fantasy? Medical school is so expensive that docs are going into specialties to earn enough to pay off their loans.
     
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    You are extremely generous, it looks like....with other people's money.
     
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    Obama care is supposed to give all medical care.
     
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    Last question first: because it's a "national" healthcare program. That means it's for ALL AMERICANS. It's SUPPOSED to cover everybody. That's the reason it exists. By the way, that coverage includes you and your spouse and your children, and your grandchildren, etc. It's also true that "other people" would be paying into that same account to help pay for you and your loved ones. We would all be paying in to cover ourselves, but our money would be used as needed to cover everyone. That makes for a more united America. That is a powerful expression of Americans caring for Americans.

    First question: I'm not sure a national healthcare program would actually cover illegals. Canada and some European countries do that, and it is a strong form of humanitarianism, but whether it would be included in the program is really open to discussion. My wife had a medical emergency in Canada requiring surgery. She was in what she describes as "the most modern, technologically advanced hospital" she's ever seen, for three days. Upon discharge, she was charged $29.00. They told her the charge was for the use of the room TV for three days. My wife still insists it was the best medical care she's ever received in her life. I have a hard time demeaning such a system after that experience. I strongly support creating such a system for my country.
     
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    Extra? This is what we already pay for our health care system.
     
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    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/05/medicare-outlook-2026-625908

    Of course many people will support "free" things without looking into it.
     
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    Did you just call illegals "diseased,contagious people"? Why again would we want such people here that we pay to pay for on top of that? ;)
     
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    Keep it under your hat.
     
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    Someones own words that i am asking them about? Take it up with him.
     
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    Okay. :no:
     
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    I would like to ask them all again..

    Do you support Socialized Medical Care with a side result of putting your children and grand children into massive debt, which they could never dream of paying off?

    That would be a more honest question.
     
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  20. Denizen

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    You didn't finish the 'or' part of the question:

    ... or bankruptcy and death?
     
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    I've read alot of positions on this and I am not knee jerk reacting when I say this. I am honestly asking where in the hell is the money going to come from??

    I recently acquired via a new job w amazing affordable Healthcare for my wife and I and it was because the business is profitable. They can afford it and it's a draw for employment as well. I want everyone to have this too but someone has to pay for it.

    I feel like the poll was probably semi fair in its demographic but it just asked would you support X. Not would you support X if it meant half your income across all tax brackets would be needed to pay for such a thing. I know our country prints money based on credit but this one would require more trees than the planet has just to make the paper.

    Bernie is so gdamn stupid sometimes. It's our Insurance and Pharma that's broken. Why doesn't he send his ANTIFA and polls after those two? His proposal is like trying to make an omelette without any eggs. Just a few veggies and some grilled onions. No substance that's edible but it smells good cooking
     
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    Is there an alternative to society providing decent health care to its members?

    Make America Greedier Again.

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    Most of the studies I have seen that are not looking to arrive at a desired conclusion have shown that the decrease in medical cost will come largely from group negotiations and increased price controls (ie a standard birth would cost 2 grand instead of 30 grand currently, an aspirin would cost .30 instead of 30 bucks). Many of them also assume decreases in future healthcare costs through cheaper preventative medicine.
     
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    The only businesses profiting from Trumpcare are funeral directors, coffin manufacturers, and debt collectors,
     
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    did that poll also warn that it would cost 30 trillion dollars over ten years and everyone's taxes would have to increase by 30% or more to pay for it ?
     

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