About 100 Russian milityry personal now in Venezuela!

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  1. Ethereal

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    I say send in AOC and the Omar idiot.
     
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    Lol ...
    Democracy has never played a role for the US in the world in terms of its support for others.
    Is Saudi Arabia or is any of the other Gulf states a democracy? Was Iran a democracy under the Shah? Was South Vietnam a democracy? Is democracy a democracy in Egypt? Were and are the "El Presidentos" democratically legitimized in the Central American countries? Or is it currently up to date, is the Honduras you have supported since 2009 still a democracy?
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    And was Cuba before Castro under Batista a democracy ... or was Turkey a democracy in the Cuba crisis?

    The answer is clearly NO in all cases!

    Any questions or comments?
     
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    I support Trump ...for the most part. Hiring Bolton or listening to anything he says is a yuge mistake.

    There'll be 'WMDs' in Venezuela by years end.
     
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    So it's a humanitarian mission then?

    I'm sure that will be a great comfort to the people of Venezuela. The Russians have been invited in to help them with their horrendously-failed socialist dictatorship troubles. Salvation!
     
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    So what exactly will these 100 or so russki "servicemen" do if/ when hundreds/thousands of Marine snipers, Seals, appear in VZ?:)))?
     
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    I know, we use maneuver warfare and hit them on their flank.
     
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    No, it's a mission to thwart the US government's illegal "regime change" operation.

    It will be of great comfort to the people who elected Maduro and who do not want a hostile foreign power subjugating them.
     
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    I was thinking more in line with an ESG (Expeditionary Strike Group)

    The Wasp Expeditionary Strike Group is in underway in the East China Sea with elements of the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit. Marine Fighter Attack Squadron “Green Knights” of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 121 is embarked aboard USSWasp(LHD-1).


     
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    Are they bringing guns or food?
     
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    VZ is a sovereign nation. The people voted for and supported socialism and now they are feeling the effects of their votes. It's up to the people to affect change. VZ was not invaded by a foreign nation. The nation collapsed due to a generation of people who thought that free stuff was possible. The people will be stronger for having to accept the error of their ways.
     
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    I was 11B in the 80's and we held the Soviet forces in high regard as well, then we all saw how they got demolished by rebel forces in Chechnya. Completely destroyed the armored column easily. All because the Soviet's reliance on WW2 battle plans.

    Then we smeared them in Syria with the greatest of ease, I think the average Marine rifleman would be more than a match for anything Russia has currently.
     
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    So is the USA so it says on paper.

    But bad hombres don't recognize borders or sovereignty and keep violating America's sovereignty as undocumented Democrats.

    Walls seem to be the only thing that works.

    VZ should build a wall instead of losing their pride and depending on white Russians. who "no comprende."
     
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    Why would they use an aircraft carrier to transport troops?
     
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    Interesting. So you don't know what an invasion is.

    Here's a clue, its not an invasion when the government of a country voluntarily invites in military troops from their allies.
     
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    Using the USMC definition of "Spec Ops" which the actual Special Operations community rejects.
     
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    When was Guaido elected president again? You seem to want him to be capitalist dictator of Venezuela.
     
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    One day in the near future during WW lll; a Russian general and his army are patrolling through semi-mountainous terrain. Suddenly, over one of the hills they hear a U.S. Marine.

    "One U.S. Marine can take out 10 Russian soldiers!"

    The Russian general smirks, then sends 10 of his soldiers over the hill. A brief firefight ensues, and then everything goes quiet...

    "One U.S. Marine can take out 100 Iraqi soldiers!"

    The Russian general is rightfully impressed, so he laughs and sends 100 of his soldiers over the hill to finish the job. A large battle is heard over the hill that lasts much longer than the previous fight. Finally, everything calms down...

    "One U.S. Marine can take out 1000 Russian soldiers!"

    The Russian general is furious, takes a long swig of vodka and sends over 1000 of his best soldiers. A massive and lengthy battle takes place over the hill. During the fight, a wounded Iraqi soldier comes crawling back over the hill toward the general.

    "Sir! Do not send any more men! It's a trap! THERE'S TWO U.S. MARINES !!!"
     
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    What do they prefer ?
     
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    The definition that the Special Operations community uses.

    You've already conceded the point that Marine "Spec Ops" aren't real special operations when you mentioned that the Marines would use maneuver warfare, which are conventional tactics, not special operations.
     
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    Have know idea if maneuver warfare would be used or not.

    Right now Marines in the Pacific and at Pendleton are going back to their roots with frontal attacks and also using maneuver warfare..

    The Marine Corps didn't adopt maneuver warfare until the 1980's to engage and defeat the Soviet Union.

    Gen. Schwarzkopf used maneuver Warfare during the first Gulf War.

    Maneuver warfare is nothing new, been around for hundreds of years.

    But the skirmish line first adopted by U.S. Marines in 1800 wasn't adopted by the world's militaries until the American Civil War, the first modern war in history.
     
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    The skirmish line predates the US Marines by nearly 300 years. Skirmishers have used the skirmish line since the 1400's.

    And again, the American Civil War did not see the skirmish line widely used except for cavalry/mounted infantry and actual skirmishers. The majority of combat in the Civil War was done in massed lines, the same as it had been for 300 years. It was also not the first modern war. That goes to the Franco-Prussian War five years later.
     
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    They'll tow the ACC.....put the troops on the other boat....all 50 of them.LOL.
     
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    You do know that Russia has actual troop transports right? Not to mention the fleet of transport aircraft they have.
     
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    Start a thread about the "First Modern War Ever Fought" down below on the PF Military Forum" and I'll participate.

    American Civil War; logistics, railroads to supply the armies and moving troops, indirect artillery fire, telegraphs, hot air balloons for observation, ironclad warships, submarines, gatling guns, trench warfare, maneuver warfare and rifles.

    The world armies kept using the smooth bore muskets into the 1860's. With the advent of the mini-ball, they switched over to rifled muskets. Soon there was the metallic cartridge.

    But Americans going back to colonial times were using rifled muskets and the Colonial militias who used their own muskets had rifled muskets while the British and Colonial Army had smooth bore muskets.

    The colonist militias used the skirmish line, taking cover behind trees, etc taking aim and firing and then advancing.
     

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