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Liberty or Living in Fear?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Bush Lawyer, Sep 7, 2019.

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    By their TV news shows, Americans have been conditioned over decades to be fearful. This is not the land of the free and home of the brave, this is the land of the brainwashed embracing their inner cowards. Such behavior is encouraged.

    Guns have little to do with it.
     
    Eleuthera, Sep 7, 2019
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  2. RodB

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    Well, as a matter of fact, it is liberty.
     
    RodB, Sep 7, 2019
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  3. ECA

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    I have no issue with anyone who feels the need to carry a gun on them when they go out in public. To each his/her own. But ultimately yes, these people do live in fear.
     
    ECA, Sep 7, 2019
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    Nobody who has lived all their life in a country without a "gun culture" lives in fear of having to defend themselves with a gun.

    The idea that granny can outshoot a professional thug is ludicrous. The only way a gun would save granny is if the thug doesn't have a gun. But the only thugs that don't carry guns are the ones in countries without our insane "gun culture"
     
    Golem, Sep 7, 2019
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  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The fear that drives people to have guns is the fear of other people with guns. This is how our insane gun culture works. But you're not going to convince those who have never seen anything better that an alternative exists.
     
    Golem, Sep 7, 2019
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    Only if by "liberty" you are referring to "the liberty to kill others".
     
    Golem, Sep 7, 2019
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    Possessing a gun means living free of fear.
     
    Texas Republican, Sep 7, 2019
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  8. RodB

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    Cute, kinda.
     
    RodB, Sep 7, 2019
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  9. squidward

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    Did you just think that up while taking a crap this morning?
     
    squidward, Sep 7, 2019
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  10. Lee Atwater

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    Lee Atwater, Sep 7, 2019
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    Of course it is. One purchases a gun for the same exact reason one buys home owners insurance in case the unthinkable happens.
     
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    Re:
    You're smugly wondering why no Americans are responding to your thread when it was about 5AM, Saturday morning on the East coast.

    I only rarely carry a firearm now that I live in a rural area & I do so, now, out of the "fear" that I may hit a deer with my car, wound it & need to put it out of its misery. It's a pretty common problem in the area

    I used to carry a firearm more frequently when I lived in a rough, inner-city neighborhood which was the only location in which I could afford to buy an older home.

    I can think of 3 times when my being armed saved me & my neighbors from thugs whose intent was not to make me or my neighbors any healthier, wealthier or happier so, no, I did not live in fear.
    I had the freedom to take a walk after dinner, go to the neighborhood restaurant, visit friends when I would not have done so without the right to carry a firearm

    Even though I enjoy target practice, I regard my defensive firearms in pretty much the same manner as I regard my fire extinguishers, smoke detectors & spare tire in my car: I can more easily relax knowing that I have these "tools" than if I didn't.

    So, yes, the right to carry a firearm has not only probably saved my life, it gave me the "Liberty/Freedom" to live my life free of fear.
     
    Grau, Sep 7, 2019
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  13. Bowerbird

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    You seem to be missing the point

    WE a don’t feel we need guns

    So, why do you ?
     
    Bowerbird, Sep 7, 2019
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  14. Soupnazi

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    Yes it is.

    Ask HER why she has it. Any answer other than to commit a crime is appropriate and logical.

    And pretty lame and stupid of the service man.
     
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  15. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    All horseshit left wing talking points.
     
    Soupnazi, Sep 7, 2019
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Because we are smarter than you and do not FEEL our way through life. We think instead and it is more intelligent to be armed than not to be.
     
    Soupnazi, Sep 7, 2019
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Wrong.

    It is embracing responsibility for oneself and safety.
     
    Soupnazi, Sep 7, 2019
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    Add family to that statement. It's always been this way from the beginning of time. A gun is just the modern tool as it used to be swords, clubs and rocks.
     
    nra37922, Sep 7, 2019
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  19. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    So 'ludicrous' I simply google "elderly homeowner shoots burglar'', just a sample from the first page. Your assertion that all criminals are armed with guns, is the only thing ludicrous. If democrats had their way, these people would have been victims, instead of being able to protect their selves. That's evil and despicable.

    Police: Elderly homeowner shoots would-be intruder on ...

    https://www.chicagotribune.com › news › breaking › ct-met-man-shoots-at...
    Apr 9, 2019 - A 78-year-old man shot one of three strangers who were trying to break into his Northwest Side home using a crowbar Monday night, police said. The man heard noises made by three male suspects who were trying to break through his front door shortly after 9 p.m. in the 2600 block of ...
    Elderly Homeowner Shoots One Of Three Would-Be Robbers ...

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com › video › 4062895-elderly-homeowner-shoot...
    Apr 9, 2019 - A 78-year-old man turned the tables on would-be robbers in the Belmont Central neighborhood Monday evening, shooting one of three men ...
    Elderly homeowner shoots alleged intruder who broke in ...

    https://www.fox5dc.com › news › elderly-homeowner-shoots-alleged-intrud...
    Feb 1, 2018 - Police say an elderly homeowner shot an intruder who broke into his ... have obtained an arrest warrant for the suspect for first-degree burglary.
    Elderly homeowner fatally shoots intruder in Lakeland home

    https://www.tampabay.com › News › Public safety
    Aug 5, 2017 - Elderly homeowner fatally shoots intruder in Lakeland home ... Hillsborough County deputies are investigating the fatal shooting of an intruder in a Lakeland home. ... Florida man arrested for burglary minutes after leaving jail.
    6 teens tried to rob a house, police say. After the homeowner ...

    https://www.cnn.com › 2019/08/16 › illinois-5-teens-murder-charge-burglary
    Aug 16, 2019 - After the homeowner shot and killed 1, the others were charged with ... a house when the elderly homeowner told them to leave and fired a gun ...
     
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    She could be carrying a heater to persuade people to pay up...?
     
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  21. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Who elected you spokesman for your entire country? They may have passed the laws but that does not mean everyone agrees with them, otherwise no law would be needed.
     
    FatBack, Sep 7, 2019
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  22. Bush Lawyer

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    Urban Queensland, City having a population of about 300,000.

    Dunno what you are driving at.

    Nah. Dwelling in a suburban street just like most people.

    Already answered.

    I have no idea. Never checked.

    I have no idea.

    Virtually no-one has a firearm in Australia. If I had to self defend, it would be either with my own body or whatever is around the place at the time. Improvisation.

    No it won't. Having a firearm is generally illegal in Australia.

    I have no idea.

    Nah.

    Nope.

    Have no idea, never checked.

    As above. Nah.

    Over to you Blue Leader.
     
    Bush Lawyer, Sep 7, 2019
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  23. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Why do you suppose she was showing it? Doesn't that seem a bit like bragging?
     
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  24. Adfundum

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    This is the question I've always had--who is it that we are so afraid of that we feel the need to arm ourselves when we go out? I have a few guns. I like shooting but don't do it much anymore. But I've never felt that kind of fear that makes people carry a gun. I simply can't understand it (and yes, I've had to defend myself from someone who pulled a gun on me).
     
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  25. Adfundum

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    I live here. It's not a sewer.
     
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