What is the end game?

They created this conspiracy theory. When enough TDS afflicted people believe in the same conspiracy theory, they feed off each other, and they can turn fantasy into their own version of reality.

 

Not in an election year..

 

Schiff for Brains is a prime example.

 

Yeah. No evidence is proof.

 

No it was Trump blackmailing the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens by withhold military aid which was miraculously released when the whistle blower complaint was filed.

And 2016 election interference has been more than investigated and the silly theory that the missing server and somehow Ukraine was involved in election interference has been totally discredited. One assumes you are aware that the US intelligence agencies have determined that it was Russia that attempted to influence the election.

 

we now have first hand testimony and the only reason there isn’t more is Trump refusing to let Barr, and Perry, and Guiliani, and Pompeo and the others testify. If Trump isn’t guilty why is he refusing to let his henchmen exonerate him. And next week you get to hear Trump’s ambassador, who Trump claims to barely know, testify in public. He has already confirmed the quid pro quo and the real reason aid was withheld.

You poor Republicans are going to have to find a new talking point.

 

Yes your problem is they were all investigated and the total waste of taxpayer money proved nothing. How many Benghazi hearings did Republican hold only to come up with nothing except exoneration of Hillary.

 

So murders only count now if the killer admits to it, we can disregard witness testimony from here on, yes?

Such it is in clown world.

 

What first hand testimony? Why is Trump telling Barr, and Perry, and Guiliani, and Pompeo and the others not to testify? That's easy why cooperate with a dog an pony show? Schiff for Brains cut off Republican Rep. Stefanik from asking the hard questions. But that's OK the Democrats can expect the same treatment in the Senate when Joe and Hunter Biden as well as Chris Heinz and Devon Archer are subpoenaed to testify. You can also expect sworn depositions by Shokin and the past and current Ukrainian Presidents. The present one whom said quid pro quo never happened. Keep on with the fantasy of removing Trump it will never happen. The Democrats are only solidifying Trump's base and bringing independents to Trump's side with their loony frenzy to get rid of him. Let me bottom line it for you. There isn't a ghost of a chance the Senate will remove Trump. But if Biden testifies there is a very good chance the gaffe machine will stick his foot in his mouth yet again and take the Democrats front runner and only candidate that could beat Trump outta the race. Carry on.

 

Trump didn't murder anyone. If you want to prove quid pro quo he would have to say it, and he didn't. Had Joe Biden not admit this on video tape..............Trump had every right to ask the Ukraine to look into it with the U.S. AG.



The guy admitted to it on video tape, so of course it deserves further investigation to determine if he was BSing or he really did it. The guy wants to be President. We could ask Biden if he broke the law but he'll likely just say it wasn't true and he was bragging. So we have to ask the other side which is what Trump did. Judging by the reaction from the left, I'm thinkin he did it or they wouldn't care because there would be nothing there.

That's NOT Biden's call and using blackmail with US aid to do it would be Abuse of Office .....you can frame it anyway you'd like it's a crime. That's why Trump asked the Ukrainian President to coordinate with the U.S. AG.

 

Any time they want!!!!!

 

What they gain is another tool to damage Trump's prospects for re-election. Isn't that obvious?

 

Investigated by who?

 

Not according to republican senators.

 

Thanks for stating the confusion that must be present in many reasonable minds.

After looking at it for a year, very critically, I conclude the American people are deeply confused while their voting system as well as politics are quite corrupted.

This leaves the door open on absolutely unforeseen events. Because war with Iran was avoided, things could be quite positive, but absolutely astounding when exposed.

 

You haven't read the transcript then. Trump talked about doing him a favor, which is a crutch phrase anyway, and then spoke about the 2016 election interference. After going back and forth a few times, Trump said "the other thing," and that is where he transitions the topic to VP Biden using his influence to "stop a prosecution.":

"The other thing, There's a lot of . talk about Biden's son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great."

There was absolutely no talk about Trump creating, or even implying, that there were any conditions, much less withholding aid, tied to any of this at all.

 

Testify to say what? To give us their own opinions, and reinterpret what the transcript doesn't say? Or do we need more people claiming to have their own speculative opinions as to what Trump was thinking, and what they think Trump secretly wanted to do?

This whole brouhaha, is over the opinions held by people into why they think Trump asked the president of Ukraine to work with AG Barr, to look into Biden's use of a billion dollars in US taxpayer aid, to coerce the Ukraine into firing a prosecutor.

We should know why. So let's investigate the Bidens and see why Trump and his AG sought clarification on the incident by Biden. Keep in mind, the results may not reflect too well on the Bidens, because they engaged in a lot of shady deals for many years, which may have led to suspicions culminating with Ukraine.

 

Trump didn’t seek any clarification on the Biden incident whatever that is supposed to mean. He just wanted the Ukrain to state they were investigating which they weren’t so he could use it for his own political gain.

And the prosecutor that was fired was not at the time investigating the Bidens or Barisma and and he was universally known to be incredibly corrupt so unlike Trump Biden was actually using US aid to achieve getting rid of corruption.

 

that is because you don’t understand what the word “ though” means in the context in which Trump used it.

And there was no talk about Biden’s son nor was there a lot of talk, except by Putin, about the Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election. It was all made. up by our lying President.

And we now have Sunderland’s testimony that the only thing Trump was interested was getting Ukraine to announce an investigation into the Bidens in which case Trump would release the military aid and maybe set up a meeting. Nowhere is there any evidence of Trump being interested in actual corruption.

 

Gee, I can’t spoon feed you everything. Bet with a tiny bit of mental effort you can figure out which party held the endless Benghazi investigations which ended up exonerating Hillary.

if I remember correctly there were about ten but you can do the research yourself.

 

Sunderland, and the people that overheard his conversation with Trump just for starters.

And you are probably right the Republicans will not vote to impeach unless of course there is a secret ballot which Moscow Mitch would never permit.

 

Politico wrote a piece in early 2017 on Ukraine's interference during the 2016 election.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.


Kyiv Court: Lawmaker's Release Of Manafort Documents Interfered In U.S. Election

A Kyiv court said that a Ukrainian lawmaker and a top anticorruption official’s decision in 2016 to publish documents linked to President Donald Trump’s then-campaign chairman amounted to interference in the U.S. presidential election.

The December 11 finding came in response to a complaint filed by another Ukrainian lawmaker, who alleged that Serhiy Leshchenko and Artem Sytnyk illegally released the documents in August 2016, showing payments by a Ukrainian political party to Trump’s then-campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.

You are inferring that you know what was inside Trump's mind was when he used the word "though?" That's really weak. Then again, this whole schiff show has been about nothing but inferences, opinion, speculation and lots of people claiming they can read Trump's mind.

 

You are simply applying your own biased opinion, and assuming the worst case scenario must bt the truth.

Think this thru, a prosecutor is investing a foreign corporation known for suspicious activity. Joe Biden's son Hunter was employed by the company for a few years, so and any evidence of fraud or illegal activity that took place during his employment would still be on the the company books, or obtainable thru emails, computer records etc... You are trying to tell me Joe thought the current prosecutor was going too easy on Burisma, and would not dig deep enough to discover corruption or crimes, and wanted someone else to investigate?

I think it's more like the opposite, Joe wanted a prosecutor he could depend upon to not dig too deep, since his son was involved.

 

This is exactly what will happen.

 

since the prosecutor was known to be totally corrupt and his removal was advocated by other countries and organizations and not just the US. And because at the time the prosecutor was not investigating Burisma or Biden you logic is faulty and totally without merit.

I would also note that no one even the most lying of Republicans has been able to actually supply any evidence whatsoever about corruption by the Bidens. So to put it simply it is just a rather pathetic attempt to divert from Trumps misdeeds and noting more.