CBS: Guns are responsible for nearly ¾ of the killings of transgender people since 2017, data shows

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  1. Xenamnes

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    In the united states a great many activities are considered as being of a sinful nature. But that state has not proven to prevent individuals from committing such activities without a second thought.
     
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    I stand corrected. But those under 12 must be protected from self-harm according to the law.
     
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    Both are problems -- guns and Atheism.
     
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    I stand corrected -- the age is 12.

    Many adults have less ability then 12 yo children. This refers to people with severe mental disability or severe addiction.
     
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    These activities are not prevented but reduced to a great extent.
     
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    No guns are not the problem. If somebody wants to commit suicide and they don't have access to guns they will just find some other means.
     
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    Incorrect again, in some states the age is as low as 6 years old.

    Try doing some research before posting anymore BS.
     
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    Guns are not a problem, people are the problem.

    Try getting your facts correct before posting anymore of your repetitious and false narrative.
     
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    Levels of adultery and infidelity in marriage have certainly not been reduced to a great extent. Why would suicide be any different?
     
  10. CCitizen

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    Other means are "successful" in under 10% of cases.
     
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    In mostly Atheist nations these levels are higher. In nations with stronger religious belief, they are lower.
     
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    Not eating or drinking is 100% successful.
     
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    In 95% of cases, people who try that would return to eating and drinking due to hunger/thirst.
     
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    No, I said that not eating or drinking is 100% successful. No person can live without eating or drinking.
     
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    IOW, transgenders clearly need to have the right to carry guns.
     
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    Factually incorrect, both in the united states and abroad. Approximately half of all successful suicides in the united states are committed without firearms, meaning other means are just as successful as the use of a firearm.

    The world health organization reports approximately eight hundred thousand individuals in the world commit suicide each year, many in countries that do not have the same legal ownership of firearms. There are approximately twenty thousand acts of suicide committed with a firearm in the united states, making up approximately two and one half percent of the annual number of suicides in the united states.

    What this all boils down to is ninety seven percent of all successful suicides in the world do not involve a firearm at all. Meaning other means are successful in nearly one hundred percent of all cases.
     
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    They seem to be quite more successful than 10% of the time in Japan, where they don't commit suicide with guns.
     
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    Non-firearm related methods of committing suicide have a success rate of more than ninety seven percent.
     
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    I would imagine depending on the method used that there are methods that are just as effective if not more effective than firearms. Jumping in front of a train going 80mph will kill you just as easily.
     
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    About 15,000 suicides a year are committed in USA without firearms. That is out of hundreds of thousands of attempts.
     
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    One image is worth many words:

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    Demonstrating the suicides will continue unabated in the united states, even if no firearms existed to be utilized for the purpose of committing suicide. Individuals who wish to end their own existence will do so, no matter what. That is as much a fact of life as fire being hot, and water being wet.

    Failed attempts do not count. Since no death occurred, no incident occurred as a result.
     
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    Ninety seven percent of all successful suicides in the world do not involve the use of a firearm.
     
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    "Research shows that access to guns can make an impulsive suicide attempt far more likely to succeed.... Suicide attempts with a gun succeed more than 85% of the time; suicide attempts with poison or overdoses succeed less than 2% of the time.... There have been many case control studies that show that having a gun in the home is associated with an increased risk of suicide. Depending on the population being studied the increased risk can be up to 10 times.... The presence of a gun at all increases the risk, but if a gun is kept loaded and unlocked the risk is even higher."



    At least keep your guns unloaded and locked up if you insist on having them. Be responsible. Lives are at stake.
     
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    How would jumping in front of a train going 80 mph be any less deadly than shooting yourself?

    Then they would be just about useless in the case of a home invasion. As for keeping guns locked up, they do make safes that open quickly with the correct code and which are meant for keeping loaded guns in, the idea is to be able to keep a loaded gun securely locked up but to be able to quickly and readily access it in case of emergency.
     
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