CBS: Guns are responsible for nearly ¾ of the killings of transgender people since 2017, data shows

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  1. CCitizen

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    Thank G-d, I do not drive. I do not have license. I am an Aspie.
     
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    In the vast majority of cases, people's lives can improve.

    In cases of severe terminal illness, there may even be an exception in Talmudic Law.
     
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    I dont have one either, been a cyclist my entire life. I fabricate and ride recumbent bicycles.
     
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    The matter of atheism has nothing to do with recognizing that social darwinism is how the real world actually works.
     
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    The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above. What ultimate, meaningful difference, does such actually make? An individual ending their own existence is a personal decision that relates to themselves, and only themselves. Yet society at large sees fit to dictate that a private individual is not free to make a personal decision that related only to themselves and does not affect anyone else.

    Without relying on the excuse of religion dictating that all individuals have value, in a transparent effort to avoid having to invest the actual time an effort of answering the question yourself, what is the legitimate reason for society deciding to exercise ownership over the individual, to force them to continue existing long after they have desired to cease?
     
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    That is an excellent question.
     
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    No. Only Atheism equates a Human's worth to his/her utility.
     
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    In Judaism, serving G-d and obeying Commandments is of primary importance. Valuing all people is an important part of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The world where "non-productive" people are not valued is horrible.
     
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    What is the reason various species of the animal kingdom will make no effort to save the old and feeble members of the herd when they detect a predator in the area and attempt to escape?
     
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    And yet such religions have standards under which the killing of others is either acceptable or otherwise commanded. If they were not killed they were taken as slaves and worked to death for being unbelievers. Meaning the value of individuals is not immutable.

    Religion does not justify or otherwise demand the welfare state.

    The world has finite resources, and a population that continues to grow unchecked. Why should they regarded as anything other than without value if they have no desire to contribute, but only take from everyone else?
     
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    So a good idea for trans people is to arm themselves.

    Making laws against them owning guns just makes them more of a victim. Why do you want them to be defenseless? So maybe the 3/4 goes up to 7/8?
     
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    Exactly it's your choice to commit suicide whether you do it by gun order by swallowing too many pills.
     
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    do depressed folk become more depressed when they see & hear about other depressed folk or do they feel better bout themselves knowing others are more depressed...
     
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    They do not have G-dly soul. That is the difference between Humans and animals.
     
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    In the vast majority of cases suicide attempts by other means are non-fatal.
     
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    So forcing a person to commit suicide with an illegally owned gun will somehow make them less dead?
     
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    Many people who are suicidal are very ambivalent. Most of them would not be able to find an illegal firearm.
     
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    They would already have one. There are 500 million fire arms owned by people in the United States currently.
     
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    According to the world health organization, there are approximately eight hundred thousand successful suicides per year around the world.

    https://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suicideprevent/en/

    There are approximately twenty thousand successful suicides committed with the use of a firearm per year in the united states.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#Suicides

    Firearms thus amount to approximately two and one half percent of all successful suicides in a given year. Thus meaning, in the vast majority of cases, over ninety seven percent, suicide attempts by means other than firearms are just as lethal, and just as capable of resulting in the individual successfully ending their own existence.
     
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    And yet this is precisely how they were made, indicating they were intended to not care about the weak and feeble. Thus suggesting what is being called for on the part of yourself is in fact an outlier position that goes against nature itself.
     
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    Worldwide, about 250,000 people per year are killed by guns. Of them 67,000 deaths per year are gun suicides. Fortunately most Nations forbid firearms. Thus they lower the suicide rate. Here.
     
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    Unlike animals, Humans have eternal souls. Thus, Humans have Ethics and Laws. Humans are fundamentally different from animals.
     
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    prove a god exists, and prove that humans have a soul.
     
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    not according to the data.
     
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    again, not according to the data. we are in the mid 30's for suicide rates per capita. Countries with little to no guns have higher suicide rates. Reality is clashing with your ideology.
     
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