Looking at the riots, looting and burnings in Minn

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  1. ButterBalls

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    And how do you know what color I am? But nice dodge anyway LOLOL
     
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    Ya them facts are hard huh :) Foxhasting at least had a educated guess/spin/dodge as to what color I was, you on the other, well not so much :wierdface::shock::roflol::nana::no::no::icon_picknose::banana::drool::crazy::bye:
     
  3. Moriah

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    Gabmux, what are your thoughts on this? What do you think Blacks should do?
     
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    Well I can’t speak for any media outlets. I believe for many (most?) officers the badge and the brotherhood stands above their races, at least that was my experience in the service.
     
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    see more outrage by some over the looting and rioting then the police slowly killing a handcuffed man
     
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    it's sad, but it may help, depends on if this gets people to listen and change or not, the Cops need to stop doing this nonsense, to any race, black or white

    when cops see other cops behaving badly, they need to treat them as a criminal as well and arrest them (not just ignore it because it's one of their own), they can't claim it was them, not me, they need to stop it or be held as complicit in the crime

    once cops have a man in handcuffs, they are ALL responsible for that persons safety
     
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    Trump told cops to disrespect suspects after they were handcuffed, bang their heads on the cop car doors, ect.... Trump is part of the problem, not the solution
     
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    Police were called on Floyd because he committed the crime of passing counterfeit money. That's why the Police came and arrested him. After cuffing him and while walking him to the cruiser, they somehow wound up on the ground with several officers holding him down, one with a knee on the side of his neck. But the Medical examiner said his airways were not obstructed, rather he died from heart failure from a bad heart and high blood pressure. He had a heart attack from the emotional stress of being arrested. While the video optics look bad, it was poor eating habits and an unhealthy lifestyle that killed him. Nevertheless, sub human cretins across this nation commenced to loot, pillage and burn because their media masters blew the dog whistle. The political left disgusts me.
     
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    How and why did they wind up on the pavement, with three Officers holding him down, when they began by walking him in cuffs to the cruiser?
     
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    Police didn't kill him. He died from a heart attack from an unhealthy lifestyle and the stress of being arrested for committing a crime. If he had died in his easy chair, would you blame it on the chair?
     
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    Well, that's a nice assumption of justification but not based on reality. Riots happen because they can and the people involved are simply acting like animals.

    Years ago in a upper class college town after a football game, thousands of well off college students, mostly white, rioted, burning cars, breaking windows, setting building on fire, looting beating up people. Was this because of some deep seated pain or hopelessness they experienced? Sure, they won/lost a football game...but could it have been more?

    Yeah it was more....they were liberal kids that didnt work for the most part, had everything taken care of for them, had no respect for others or the property of others and whom knew with their excessive numbers could get away with destroying the property of others and they had fun doing it.

    No different then the looting and destruction going on now.
     
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    Martin Luther King Jr-era riots had that sort of nobility and justification, but not all riots are created equal.

    These current riots are just immature leftists throwing temper tantrums and smashing up their progressive-city playpens.
     
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    Several factors behind this.
    #1: The liberal/progressive dems have been promoting hatred for wealth, for anyone white, and trying to make all things racist. They have been doing this for years, but with dramatic increases as ideological division has become stronger. It has encouraged a large number of people to abandon self-respect as well as respect for others- turned them in to weak people with the belief that they are entitled. Not just to other people's money or property, but to never be offended by anything. That is the core identity of the people playing primary roles of violence in these riots. There are numerous interviews with some of them- which amount to unrestrained rants, one calling for burning of all cities and then taking over the suburbs. The motive of the people promoting this has never been justice or righteousness- but to create divides between people, and make them less able to think for themselves. It's a political wrong of great magnitude, and it uses minorities as pawns.

    The danger comes from these no-morals the left has filled with hate- but the primary cause also lies in the people who have promoted these ludicrous ideas and feed them in order to use these people.

    #2: The actions of the rioters are stand-alone crimes. They ARE NOT the result of the Floyd George death- that is only an excuse, a justification. It is the absence of character in these people that has given them the capacity to be violent criminals. There is NO justification; these are not people expressing a concern or demand for better policemen- they are a mob of criminals expressing their anger towards society like children throwing tantrums. Nothing more. There is ZERO to respect- and there is no way to reason with people of this mindset.

    #3: "The black community has demanded respect". Respect me or I will burn down your city? Respect is earned by honorable conduct, including the respect for others and solving problems by following legal recourse. What has happened here is the opposite. Societies perception of black people everywhere has been seriously damaged by this. The very communities they ravage will suffer for 20 years or more because of what they are doing. Property values will drop like a stone. Businesses will leave; new businesses looking to expand will blacklist these areas, even the cities where this is happening. The social quality of life there will be irreparably harmed, and the children who do grow up there will also be tainted by not only the events but by the attitudes of the people who have done them and live there. Social progress in these cities, specifically including the quality of racial interactions, has now been set back 10-20 years. More, if these attitudes are not met with appropriate rejection and prosecution.

    There is not only nothing to respect, but these people have destroyed the respect that has been built over the last 50 years, in a matter of days. Many will see this as the "true colors" being shown, and decide that this is the real nature of black people. Nothing has been gained- but a great deal has been lost, almost all of it by the black communities in these cities.

    So far- I've not seen a single report where black leadership has condemned those who are rioting. No doubt some are- but all should be. We are waiting for them to speak for their community, to condemn the criminal rioters and demand they be prosecuted.
     
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    Without a location or dates this is nothing more than a story. I’m sure you had fun telling it.

    You honestly can’t see the difference between vitriolic displays over a sporting event and anger that a black man can be killed by police and his killer is free for nearly a week before being arrested?
     
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    And how do you come to that conclusion?
     
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    Based upon the fact that MKL urged "true pacifism" and "non-violent resistance", while the George Floyd protestors are smashing, burning, and looting liberal-run cities.

    It would all seem pretty self-evident, but I guess some people need even simple things explained.
     
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    You honestly can't see the difference in due process and a lynch mob demanding blood?
    Can't see the difference between legally investigating and punishing a person responsible for a crime, and burning millions of dollars in private property, because you are "pissed off"?

    Legal justice isn't instant. It isn't perfect. But it is vastly superior to the kind of attitudes these rioters have- always has been, always will be.
    THEY are criminals too- arsonists and much more.
    They probably won't be prosecuted for their crimes- and you probably won't have any problem with that at all.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggieville_riots

    Rioters are the same....people with no respect for others having fun at the expense of innocent people. The rioters arent angry. They are opportunistic.
     
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    "It was poor eating habits and an unhealthy lifestyle that killed him". Really? You don't think having a knee on his throat for almost 10 minutes had anything to do with it?:icon_picknose:
     
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    Ignorant children, greedy, opportunistic, and acting out like a bad schoolchild.
     
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    The Mayor of Minnesota is calling out the National Guard.

    Dr. Frankenstein is finally realizing that his progressive monster is out of control.
     
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    I have a question for the people who are critical of the protesters. How should people protest the deaths of unarmed Black men at the hands of the police? How can this brutality be stopped?
    I don't approve of rioting and looting. But, it seems peaceful marches, prayer vigils and turning the other cheek is not helping the Black community. We are still being brutalized and killed for trivial reasons.
    What is your opinion?
     
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    idk, if he were serious he should have asked for fixed bayonets rather than plastic shields.
     
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    And how exactly does rioting and looting help the black community?
     
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    How does staying quiet help the Black community? We continue to be brutalized and killed when we do nothing.
     
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