White Fragility.

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  1. jay runner

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    The company can only borrow to make payroll for so long and then your white privilege card sits in the rack without being punched as your job goes to cobwebs and dust.

    To hell with COVID-1984

    They should never let it happen again without nuking China.
     
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    The right is color blind? Really? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Look up the definition of White privilege. There you will find the answer.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    When I was a kid there were a few white privileged, but they all lived on the other side of the tracks up on a pretty ridge.
     
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    Everyone needs income and people have three choices. Start your own business and be completely dependent on your customers to recognize that your product/service has value to them. Go to work for someone else's business, which has higher security, and be dependent on your boss recognizing your value to the company. Don't work and be dependent on government scraps.

    Everyone is dependent on others. Freedom and independence means providing the opportunity for individuals to determine their own path. There is no other system where a person can be born into poverty and end up a multi-millionaire, but it's not easy. People want and easy-button today. No country in the world has an easy-button. We have an "easier" button, or an "at least it's possible" button.
     
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    Far more so than the left. I'm talking about party platforms, of course, not individuals. The DNC sees "race" everywhere. The GOP focuses more on providing economic opportunities, regardless of race.
     
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    But people ARE better than others, as INDIVIDUALS. We are all better at being the unique people we are than at being stereotypical members of groups. This is where problems arise. White people want black people to be proper white people rather than themselves, blacks want to be themselves but then see themselves as black people rather than just people, that is, just themselves. Neither side values anyone, either themselves or anyone else, as the unique people they are. They deny their own reality and the reality of others in favor of a construct, an abstraction, which has no existence short of that which they give it

    We are all unique, just like everybody else.
     
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    When I was a kid, I knew White kids who were poor and raggedy. I was also poor and raggedy. But the White kids thought they were better than me because they were White and I was Black.
    Of course, I didn't agree with them.
     
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    Reminds me of something I heard recently...

    "Everything is connected"_____"Everything is changing"_____"Pay attention"
     
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    I like that way of saying it. Thanks
     
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    Nor should you have agreed with them. My Dad was a janitor and worked on a crew with black guys and taught me that it was not true. In the military I damn sure learned it was not true. Then came April 4, 1968 and it was never the same again, we were divided. Terrible day.
     
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    Privilege is an earned advantage. Americans gain advantage by succeeding through hard work in the economic competition called capitalism. Once someone in a family achieves success, they teach their children well and leave them an inheritance, or "advantage" which often carries through multiple generations of continued hard work to make the next generation stronger and more advantaged than the last. Advantage in American society is enjoyed across any false racial boundaries today. There are many minority-owned family businesses which are successful.

    White Privilege is nothing more than Marxist propaganda designed to take away earned privilege from people and "presumably" hand all that earned wealth and property over the the "oppressed and aggrieved" people who didn't earn it, because somehow they deserve it more. It's about political power, not race.

    Every time Marxism has been put in to actual practice, the leaders of the new government became the new hoarders of all the wealth and the numbers of people living without not only dramatically increased but the poor were left with no opportunity to dig themselves out of government-induced poverty.
     
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    Economic opportunity for WHO? If you're not educated and don't have any capital Economic Opportunity is a hollow mockery

    And the part I bolded is the real problem.

    The use of race as a way to keep the poor of both races from uniting against their REAL enemy, those who exploit both of them alike, has long been a basic strategy of oppression in the US.
     
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    Perhaps there's a psychological aspect of "white privilege".
    The shame of being a slave or being the descendants of slaves gets passed down from generation to generation.
    The idea that people, past or present, consider you "less than" simply because of your skin color can't be easy to swallow.
    Yet they are expected by whites to "just deal with it".
    I wonder if whites could "just deal with it" for hundreds of years?
    What if Black people decide to put on pointy hats with eye holes cut in
    and hang a few whites? Could the white privileged "just deal with it"?
     
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    Your question supposes facts not in evidence.
     
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    When someone is treated as an individual, protected by law, and generations removed from 'slavery', why would it be considered a 'shame', and who is perpetuating it? An internalization of something does not mean other people are inflicting it. It means the person themselves are perpetuating it.

    And that's something no other person, organization, law or protest can fix.
     
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    If the GOP's primary concern is money....then I suppose in that respect the GOP could be considered "more color blind".....
    by way of being just plain blind in regards to anything that is not money or a source of income to themselves.

    So perhaps you are quite correct in a round about way
     
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    If you're not educated and don't have any capital, then you're starting at the ground floor. That does not mean that economic opportunity does not exist. A plurality, if not a majority, of Americans start at the ground floor in a minimum wage job. Also, a plurality, if not a majority, don't get "stuck for life" working retail or flipping burgers. The more motivated and brighter individuals of all races grab onto the educational of employment opportunities in this country to move up the ladder.

    I also object to your characterization that "both races" are exploited by job providers. Which "both races" are you talking about? Black and White? As if, this country is not home to many cultures? You are also vaguely implying that only white people own businesses in some sort of imaginary "strategy" of oppression against the "other" race.

    Care to address why people of Asian ethnicity are far more educationally and financially successful than any other race in this country? Are they a "strategic oppressor race", or does their culture place an extremely high value on educational and vocational achievement?

    I did appreciate your earlier post which was closer to the truth that people are individuals with unequal gifts in talent, skills, intelligence, education....and self-motivation. Every single country has far more poor people than rich people. Only western democracies allow for a broad, healthy and comfortable middle-class to exist, and of course, people with more innate advantages will move up. Many overcome disadvantages through sheer hard work and motivation alone. Taking advantage of unique talents, or just outworking other people, does not mean that anyone is "strategizing" to oppress the poor.
     
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    Yes of course. It's their own da** fault they are Black. They should "just pull themselves up by their bootstraps"
    Yet another reason to consider them "less than" whites.
     
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    Dodging the best you got? How do you know this definition applies to me?

    I ask about YOU and ME, what privilege are you claiming I have over you? If you can't explain it succinctly and specifically you got nothing.
     
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    Where you possibly got that claptrap from my post, is beyond any reasonable person's comprehension.

    Blacks have nothing to be ashamed about.
    The majority of people who are not Black, view other skin colors as people, and don't care what color they are.
    No one has control over what color the skin they were born with is, that is not the person they are.

    So if a 'white woman' gets raped, and internalizes that as shame, who is responsible for that? The 'shame' doesn't come from external sources, or in this day an age in a civil society, should not be coming from external sources. There is no shame for physical characteristics one has no ability to pick or chose. What you become as a person, IS the responsibility of the person.

    Try reading what is actually said, not what you imagine.
     
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    I just want people to live their values. If they think there are too many white men in Hollywood, they should stop hiring them.
     
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    I think this way is closer to the truth....
    "We are all unique, just like everybody else."


     
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