Lies in Progressive Ideology

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  1. ChiCowboy

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    Bunch of ultra rich pyromaniac communists, them Californians. Oh, and homeless too.

    The fires are being started by stupid "gender reveal" parties. Nice diversion. Much better material here than the OP.

    California fires: Gender reveal party blamed for blaze as LA hits 49C

    An Arizona fire was started this way, and they were kind enough to record the event.

     
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    Arizona has one, Ca. dozens and Oregon at least four as Antifa discovers would burns better than concrete and steel.
     
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    How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a wouldchuck could chuck would?
     
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    Damn Antifa. I've kept them out. How's under your bed looking? I hope you keep them out as well. Do you have a picture of Antifa? I need to know what they look like.

    Stupid gender reveal parties. The Creek Fire was set this way. Here's a satellite image. The Creek Fire is the largest plume in the center of the image. The source is Fresno, CA. The northern extent of the plume is Reno, NV, 200 miles away. Lake Tahoe is completely engulfed. This is the result of people who threw a party to reveal the gender of their baby.

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    Downtown Reno from a mile away.
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    Not a single one of them became rich from communism.
     
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    Really? California's economy is in the toilet. Try to keep up.
     
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    Yeah, nothin' like a righty dictating to the left with 'progressivism' is all about.

    But the hard numbers refute your claim.

    Gdp-demsbetter.jpg

    Stocks have done better under Democratic presidents

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    The happiest countries are those with the most 'progressive' policies:
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    And then there's my sig
    [The above facts are no doubt why] 2,868,676 more votes were cast for a democrat president in 2016, 17,537,638 more votes were cast for democrats in the senate in 2018, and 9,710,275 more votes were cast for democrats in the house in 2018, Biden is ahead nationally by several points. These incontrovertible facts prove that democrats, overall, have the message that the public favors

    AND, FYI, Most democrats are Christians. You know, 'Christ', the guy who said to feed the hungry, heal the sick, give comfort to the homeless, etc?
    Last time I checked republicans are trying to kill health care for 20,000,000 people. Jesus would really get a kick out of you guys.
     
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    Everyone knows economic factors are delayed so the "prosperity" under the democrat is a result of Republican policies.

    The happiest countries ranking was determined by a poll....so all we know is the countries where people lie about being happy.

    Left wing propaganda is so easy to refute!
     
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    Can you refer to one economic study making that conclusion? If not, why not?
     
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    No Democrat is advocating communism. But, under the progressive era in the 50s, the standard of living was higher than it is now and the CEO pay ratio to the lowest rung was 50 to 1, now it is 300 to 1, so the gap is much wider, the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
     
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    <Flame-bait/Replies> Actually, progressivism is in steep decline and replaced with neoliberalism; the gutting of rights ( voting rights ) the scaling down of the EPA, destruction of unions, repealing of regulations, massive tax breaks for the wealthy, etc, which has resulted in an overall decline of the standard of living, appointing DeVoss as Education Secretary, installing Goldman & Sach's people in many cabinet positions, etc.. So, the opposite is true. But, if you compare democratic administrations to republican administrations, democrats do better, overall. See my other reply to this post.
    • So, what part of my 92 year old mother's $800 per month social security, her medicare and SSI do you want to take away?
      Religion has nothing to do with progressivism. That you'd make this assertion disqualifies you to make a valid commentary on progressivism
      This is false. The essence of our view is "Capitalism for wants, Socialism for needs". We uphold this as a guideline, as there are shades of grey. There are some things that private enterprise can do better, build widgets, stuff people want. There are some things that work better when the profit motive is removed, such as health care and education. Does that mean we want private doctors eliminated? Does that mean there should be no private schools? No, but there should be options. Health care and education should not be only for those who can afford it. Your claim here is a STRAWMAN. <Flame-bait/Replies>
    There is nothing you can do to stop the left's march to reverse neoliberalism which is responsible for the decline of America.

    The rest of your commentary is drivel.
     
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    Those countries look like white ethnostates compared to America.
     
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    Study? LOL! Just look at the chart.
     
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    Add intersectionalism, the cancel and woke cultures and the Marxist takeover of the progressive movement, and you are all caught up to today.
     
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    Even the city workers, like police and fire cannot afford to live in San Francisco, where the only people living there are the rich, and the homeless. Truly a Democratic Party Utopian paradise. Where California goes, so do the haves and have nots.
     
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    So "everyone knows" but you can't find one economic study making that claim (which of.course is needed as you need to isolate the political variable). I wonder why? ;)

    What I did find amusing, mind you, was your necessary focus on lags. Very Keynesian. Keynes was a proper lefty, mind you, so its good to see you climbing on-board....
     
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    I am so glad that conservatives are here to explain to the rest of us what liberalism and progressiveism actually mean. I never would have figured it out myself...
     
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    Here's a short summary of some of the lies that progressive ideology promotes:

    Money can be declared! You don't have to work!

    Rights are a gift from government, not God.

    Its ok to kill babies, but not violent murderers!

    America is a racist country! Blacks are being hunted down and murdered by racist cops!

    Morality is relative, unless we are preaching our marxist values at you. Then, they are absolute.

    Christianity is evil! It has caused all the problems in the world!

    You have the right to say or write whatever you like, as long as it aligns with Progressivism!

    Government can enable you to live off of everyone else!

    Due process is stupid. The accusation of guilt is enough. Presumption of Innocence is presumptuous.

    The scientific method is stupid. Facts are whatever our elites say. If they say we evolved from amoeba, then that is 'settled science!' If they say we must ban all fossil fuels or we all will die, then we must ban fossil fuels.

    America is an evil, anti human system, that must be destroyed! Just because Marxism has never worked anywhere else, does not mean we can't get it right, this time!

    Anyone who disagrees with the tenets of progressive ideology is a Hater, anti-science, and a Trumper! It is ok to censor, kill or attack such a regressive inhuman bug.

    History is stupid. Imagined narratives work better and keep everyone happy.

    Love trumps hate, and we'll prove it by burning the country down, rioting, looting, and killing anyone who gets in our way.

    The police are bad! Everyone could live in peaceful harmony if they were eliminated!


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    What are these Marxist values you're going on about?
     
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    California is not a 'communist state!' ..yet.. certainly they are trending that direction, and the typical destruction, corruption, hell hole conditions that accompany such a transition are plainly visible.
    Pretending that stock market trends, from multiple factors are a direct result of Progressivism, is a huge leap.
    'Happy?' Really? You can quantify, 'happy!!'?
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    Yes, progressive Indoctrination has been very successful, deluding people to solemnly vote against their own best interests.
    Is that why the progressive left battles constantly to remove any reference to God, attacks crosses, statues, churches, Christmas, etc? That's why the prefer to leave off, 'Under God', in the pledge of allegiance?

    Yes, all these "democrat Christians!' :roll:

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    So which is it? You just said Progressivism cannot be stopped. Now it is in decline?
    So it seems. The shiny lure of free stuff is hard to resist. The history and agenda of Progressivism is not hard to follow, understand, and expose, as the deadly poison for humanity that it is.

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    1. Eliminate private property.
    2. More and bigger government.
    3. Destroy history and critical thinking.
    4. Destroy religion, as the opiate of the masses.
    5. Appoint elitist bureaucrats to micromanage every aspect of our lives.
    6. Readily available and plentiful, mind altering substances to dull the mind and ensure compliance.

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    1) Historically, the modern era arose from the interaction of finance, government respecting Rule of Law, and knowledge institutions. But that's over your head. A book came out a decade ago about how private property creates value, makes it possible. What you said is not just wrong, it contradicts the history and reality of Western civilisation. Now if you could just stop trying to destroy our civilisation, that would be peachy.

    2) Enough to do the job..

    3a) I took enough history in college that I could get a history degree in a semester if the school has a liberal transfer policy. History isn't easy, it has rules, and you have no idea what they are, or how to do it.

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    5) Because dying from things like asbestos is better than regulation. You should live in Flint, Michigan.

    6) Like booze? <Flame-bait/Replies>

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    This really isn't a well thought reply. Marxism uses critical analysis into history to understand the consequences of power and privilege. By making nonsense claims over 'Marxist values', you're actually saying that you don't give two hoots about power inequalities. That isnt a cunning outcome, is it?
     
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    Look for more fires down the line.
    The woke crowd love to throw gender parties, five years later they will throw a we are undecided as to the gender party, followed by a finally decided coming out gender party, concluding with a surgical transformation gender party.
     
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    You didn't say anything.

    Not that I expected you to respond on point, but there's nothing there. You've given up.
     
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