Polls show Biden will win - like Hillary, right? Opinion

ONE race? No kidding, Sherlock? How about this 5.5% whopper?


Another Oops buddy. LOL but your blind faith is important to them, people like you is what keeps them in business, keep it up

 

I couldn't care less if they missed A COUPLE of races. Keep going, show me more if it gives you pleasure. Whatever rocks your boat, champ. The fact still remains that they accurately predicted the Dems taking over the House and the Senate remaining with the GOP, down to very close numbers.

Are you someone who doesn't see the big picture, and sweat the small stuff? Poor you.

 

LOL, you still don't get it, do you?.... The pollsters always predict that the Left will win... and they are proven correct when the left wins... and they are proven wrong when the left loses.

And my examples (you are right, there is plenty more where they came from) have destroyed the premise of your OP and this entire thread, the pollsters have learned absolutely nothing... moreover they don't want to learn, they are deliberately manipulating the stats to show results that their swamp/fake media masters pay them to see.

 

One Big thing you miss.......it is evident the media slants in bias toward Biden. They want more than anything to discourage Republicans. It is to their advantage for polls to show Trump way down and try to discourage Conservatives. It is a fact, however, that conservative enthusiasm is far far better than leftist enthusiasm. It is far better to actually approve of ones policies than to base a campaign on hate and propaganda. That my friend is the Ace in the hole.

I know of people that sit and answer polls all day long. I have never been polled. Guess there are those that know how, and are capable and permitted to sway the polls.

 

Says you. It's an opinion (and a wrong one). Pollsters have predicted numerous Republican victories too, including, like I just said, that the GOP would keep the Senate. What part of this you didn't understand? Of course not all polls are the same (Rasmussen for example often overestimates the chances of conservative runners). Some are more accurate than others. But if you look at a meta-analysis like Nate's from 538, except for 2016 he's been strikingly accurate (although of course you'll be able to find a couple of examples when he wasn't; but over all, big picture, yes).

Why do you assume that all pollsters are leftists? Do you consider Rasmussen to be made of leftists?

On pollsters not being the same, see these accuracy ratings:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Yay, a nuanced take! You don't get the big picture and you engage in black-and-white thinking (either they need to get everything right or they are totally bogus; they are ALL leftists, LOL) so I'm sure you won't relate to that. I couldn't care less. You do you.

Again, we'll see. It will be my pleasure to come back to this thread when most polls deliver accurate results and Biden wins by the expected margins (again, unless Trump cheats, which he WILL do, and may even prevail through the courts, which won't change the accuracy of the polls regarding the will of the people; it's just that he is likely to subvert that will and become an usurper, if his buddies in the Judiciary help him with stealing the election).

Now, I'll stop responding to YOU on this. It's redundant; we're just repeating the same stuff over and over. You can LOL me as much as you want. I couldn't care less. I will respond to this on November 4th (or a few days or weeks later if the count is a mess). To continue now will just be more of the same, you mocking me, and me saying that you'll eat crow (which you will). So, good bye. If you reply, I won't reply to your reply.

 

First, not all pollsters are leftists. There are rightist pollsters too. Rasmussen, Fox News... these also give Biden the advantage. How do you explain THAT?

Second, there is no enthusiasm gap. You all look at Trump's crazy superspreader unmasked rallies and say that Biden doesn't have the same. Well, that's by design. Appropriately Biden is NOT inviting the public to his events and is doing a lot of virtual stuff. But if you look at the best measure of enthusiasm, fundraising, Biden is FAR above Trump, who is having to cancel ad contracts as his campaign is running out of money while Biden raised several times more.

Base a campaign on hate and propaganda? I watched both town halls yesterday, using my DVR. Biden provided long, detailed, sharp, and well-informed POLICY points in his town hall, all 90 minutes of it. Trump on the other hand spent his 60 minutes spewing attacks on anybody whose last name is not Trump.

 

So we agree then, if according to today's polls Biden wins all battleground states and the popular vote by 9% margin - I will admit I was wrong, if the margins are substantially smaller and Trump wins battleground states, you will admit your gullibility and that you were once again fooled by fake news media and their subservient polls. Deal?

 

Sure, Biden has boat, motorcycle rallies and people lining up (social distancing of course) to see him. Where have you been. in a cave? Trump has been through the China Virus thing. So will some of his staff. Less than two weeks lost and now it's over for them. What is Biden going to do? Hide in the basement for four years? Actually it won't be near that long. Kamala and the squad will take over long before that. Actually, don't think they'll have the chance.

 

The "hide in the basement" accusation is just a talking point. He's been active in the campaign trail every day. Get informed. "The Squad": these are only 4 strident women, 1.7% of the Democratic House Caucus. YOU are the one attributing too much importance to a dumb bartender. Me, I think AOC and her 3 buddies are best ignored; they importance has been clearly over-estimated. The first time AOC runs for higher officer she will be soundly defeated in the primaries, like her mentor Sanders was (by 8 million freaking popular votes, what a spanking!). The Biden candidacy was exactly designed to STOP the Far Left and now suddenly the Far Left will take over? Unlikely, and just another talking point. The sky will not fall.

 

He's dropping like a brick in the Favorable. His refusal to reveal his list for the Supreme court and refusal to say if he would pack the supreme court are burying him with the moderates and independents. Big mistake!

 

Well, we'll see how buried he'll be. He said yesterday during the town hall that he is not a fan of packing the court, he thinks it's something to consider depending on what the GOP does, and said that before the election he will notify the American people about his view on this.

 

So the early voters can't change their votes?

 

True, there's some calculated risk there. He said, "if I say it now, it will be front page news tomorrow." He knows that regardless of the position he ultimately takes, part of his base will turn against him. He wants his base united until closer to the election.

 

The simple correct answer was "NO, I won't pack the court if elected". All other ambiguous and evasive answers are a clear and transparent admission that he will be in favor of packing the court. Do you seriously think this swampy double talk is fooling anyone? It's insulting our intelligence, nothing more.

 

I actually agree with the above.

 

My county has voted for every presidential election winner since at least 2000. Four years ago there were many Trump signs and only one Clinton sign. This year it's about 60-40 Biden. And there are far more Culp for Governor signs and just one for Inslee. So it's a Republican stronghold except for Trump.

 

What has been "insulting" has been that EVERY Republican and Trump claiming that being too close to the election (nearly a year) if the President a Democrat but the the week before the election if its a Republican President.

The fact that EVERY Republican lied in their claims on this issue invalidates every claim on any Supreme Court picks and procedures.

Americans can get disgusted with liars, and while people have gotten used toTrump, to have ALL Republicans to be so blatant about liaring, that has changed.

NO ONE is upset about the idea of "packing the Court". Trump and the Republicans have overstayed their welcome in our Country's leadership.

 

That should have been Trump's answer regarding the QAnon crazies. "No I think they're nuts". But that's NOT what he said was it...

 

Dude, you look at it the wrong way... Too bad I was banned and there was no one here to educate you. Rejoice, I am back so here it goes:

1. Obama could nominate a Supreme Court pick and he did and nominated Garlick Merland. It was insulting and hypocritical of the dems to demand that Trump not nominate anyone in 2020 after Obama did in 2016.... Trump did it anyway, fair is fair, what's good for Obama in 2016 is good for Trump in 2020, right?

2. Obama did not have the votes in 2016 to get his nominee confirmed by the Senate so Obama lost, the republicans won..... The dems still don't have the votes to stop Trump's pick from being confirmed, so they are losing again and the republicans are winning again. It's insulting, utterly hypocritical and frankly stupid of the dems to demand that republicans voluntarily surrender because the democrats are the biggest losers (and not in the good show-based meaning of this term) who lose so bad and so often that they have become the laughingstock of the universe.

Winning is winning, losing is losing, packing the court is CHEATING, that sore losers who can never win honestly resort to.

 

Yes...there was no way that Republicans could legally prevent Obama from nominating a successor to Scalia, so they simply refused to even consider the nomination. Instead they floated some bullshit about a nonexistent "Biden Rule" that would prevent a SC seat from being filled in the year prior to a Presidential election.

And of course they through that garbage out the window the SECONG Ginsburg died.

"Obama did not have the votes in 2016 to get his nominee confirmed by the Senate". Since no vote was ever held...that's bullshit

Republicans are engaging in a naked power play. Newsflash..the counter to all this is to increase the size of the Court by two seats. The number of seats has gone up...and it has gone down. Nothing regarding the number of seats is written in stone

Oh well huh?

"Winning is winning, losing is losing, packing the court is CHEATING. Nope...it's just part of the "game" and you don't like it. Tough ****"

 

There were issues with state polls in 2016 and the polling outlets took steps rectify the issues. Unlike this President these businesses take they’re jobs seriously.

Even if you account for those polling issues—pretend they still exist—Biden still wins albeit in a tighter race.

What Biden has going for him is an opponent that perpetually affirms his unfitness for office daily: a fearful lazy whiney entitled wussy. So how do I really feel about him?

 

Your excuses for dems' lying, cheating and shamelessly changing the rules when they can't win honestly are acknowledged.

No surprises here.
- dems lose the presidency - abolish the electoral college
- dems can't win the senate - add 2 bogus liberal states
- dems can't sit a leftist Justice - pack the court
- dems can't get enough people to vote for them - cheat with mail-in voting
...

Nope, no surprises at all, par for the course.

 

"Shamelessly lying and changing the rules" is exactly what Moscow Mitch did to steal the Garland seat

Huge fail there

 

Nope, he did not lie, he had the votes to prevent the nomination, he did not change the rules, he had the votes to prevent the nomination based on existing rules...

Like I said, here is what cheating and lying looks like:
- abolishing the electoral college when you can't win the presidency
- adding 2 bogus liberal states when you can't win the senate
- packing the court when you can't get a Justice approved
- cheating with mail-in voting when you can't win an honest polling place based election

All these ways to lie and cheat, all by democrats, huh.

 

The Republicans refused to do their constitutional job to confirm or deny Garland. In the process, virtually EVERY Republican Senator made the claim it was "too close to the Election", and Senate would not their job.

That is lies they made, and now they confirm their lies without the slightest excuse for their blatant lie.

So I believe the electorate, both Democrat and even many regular Republicans are quite comfortable with doing is necessary to correct that lie and the numerous blatant lies the Senate Republicans have perpetrated.

Trump is already toast, now what is at stake is the seats of many of the Republican Senators who are at stake for the next 2 years of Republican majority.