Sanders Coup Attempt Against Biden

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, I just watched the interview clips below between Krysal Ball and Bernie Sanders.

    Apparently, Sanders and his Socialists in Congress are planning to launch an independent 100 Day Plan which will compete against whatever Joe Biden puts up as his 100 Day Plan.

    Sounds like the Socialists will stop pretending that the Democrats are all one big happy family and the war for the Democrat Party will be on in full force.

    After a year of a pandemic where state governments have shut people out of their businesses and jobs, the probability is good of there being more public approval of Socialist ideology (and free government money) will be at peak popularity, especially among the young voters who are already indebted to the banks and indoctrinated toward an affinity for Socialist/Marxist/Communist flirtations.

    Socialists will start the 2022 campaigning on day 1 of the Biden administration. Without Trump there to fight Socialism, Biden gives them the opportunity to keep rising and is unlikely capable of putting the brakes on their forward momentum.

    Who will win the hearts and souls of the left wing? Establishment Moderate Democrats or the New Socialists/Marxists? Does Biden have the strength (or the will) to win the battle against Socialism? Who will end up with more Democrat Congressional seats in two years after the 2022 mid-terms?

    It's going to be quite a show seeing AOC, the face of future DNC leadership, attacking a poor old guy with steadily increasing dementia. The media will love her for at least 2 years as much as they've hated Donald Trump for 4 years.

     
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    Yes, and don't forget about Kamala, since if Joe does win the presidency either he will soon afterwards resign or Nancy will have him removed for deminished mental capacity reasons. So one way or the other it would soon become a Kamala Harris presidency. So how will Bernie and the AOC nutjob interract with her? Either it will go as smooth as silk and thus Venezuela rapidly becomes our future or they fight like cats and dogs.
     
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    According to Goldman Sachs the top 1% of U.S. income earners bought $1.5 TRILLION in stocks over the past 30 years while at the same time the bottom 99% were net sellers of $800 BILLION in stocks. We need to change this dramatically and allow much more of our population to share the wealth, we can not continue to be a country just for the wealthy.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see the House voting to ever let Nancy hold the gavel again. She's been a real embarrassment for 2 years.

    Good point about Kamala...

    Kamala is a wild card. She had the most Far Left voting record in her Senate term than either Sanders or Warren. However, she was very moderate/centrist and not too liberal at all in her role as California's D.A. Today she is pretending to be an establishment moderate, just like Joe. Watching the chameleon try to make both parties (Democrats and Socialists) happy will be interesting. She is a big money draw for the DNC, so I expect her to stick with her Establishment Elite roots....but neither Dems nor Socialists can trust her because she has no real loyalty to any particular ideology.

    Well one thing is for sure. Both Bernie and AOC are quite skilled at being able to speak coherently without a teleprompter about Socialism, so they could out-debate Joe any day of the week. I expect AOC to become the new "star" of CNN/MSNBC headlines, except media will throw flowers and rainbows at her instead of the rocks and daggers they've thrown at Trump.
     
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    So you think that Bernie and AOC will win the next 2-year battle and maybe the 4-year war to get a Socialist populist for the 2024 election?
     
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    What I'm saying is we cannot continue as a country where a tiny percentage of our citizens have more collectively than 75% of our population combined. This huge imbalance has occurred since 1980, prior to that we had a much larger more vibrant middle class but as income and fringe benefits have been slashed so has the quality of life for those who have not.
     
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    I grew up dirt poor -- finished high school, served in the military, learned a trade, sometimes worked two jobs and through hard work, saving, and investing (yes stocks), I joined the wealthy. The POTUS didn't help me, the senators didn't help me, the congressmen didn't help me, and the governor didn't help me. Hard work helped me. So why do you think I should share my wealth? What dramatic change do you propose?
     
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    What you're saying is true, but how do we change it? Seems to me the only answer on the left is raising taxes so only the politicians become rich and we all become miserable
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. I agree. Trump supporters and the Socialist left wing both see that as a problem....and the RINO/DINO establishment elite political powers as the people who created the problem.

    I voted Sanders in the primaries, hoping we might get a battle and debate about the solution to the problem. The Socialist solution is more government which hands money directly to citizens. The Nationalist solution is to create more jobs, getting money into peoples' hands through paychecks, by bringing jobs and investments back to America from other countries.

    Biden (nor any RINO on the right) was ever seen as the solution by either the Socialists or Nationalists who can agree the growing wealth gap is the main problem. The Bidens and Romneys and Pelosis and Kasichs just suck the money out of American's pockets and get rich.

    Oh well. The public Socialist war with Democrats will be entertaining. The thread question is: Who do you think will win between those two factions over the next 2 year? 4 years?
     
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    ButterBalls and Have at it like this.
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Success was easier before 1990, when both parties signed off on foreign trade agreements with Japan, China and Mexico. That sucked a lot of middle-class opportunities out of this country.

    It is harder for the younger generation than it was for us.
     
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    If he wins you'll have President Harris within a year.

    Then the Hunger Games start.
     
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    That pretty much sums it up, eh?
     
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    A lot does come down to which side President Harris goes with. She's a shrewd and ambitious climber, and most of her political support has come from wealthy white California women. If I had to flip a coin today, I'll bet she sides with the establishment elites. There's more money and personal power to go with the existing power structure.

    Kamala also has a rather authoritarian bent and "My way or the highway" mentality of a tough courtroom prosecutor. Of course, she will try to prosecute Republicans generally, but she may be able to smash the Socialists into silence, the way that Pelosi has barely managed for the last 2 years.
     
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    So dont let the 99% sell stock? Why cut them off? I sure as hell want to buy and sell as much as I please.
     
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    She has the most extreme left voting record in the Senate.
     
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    It looks like Putin sponsored propaganda is now in full swing!
     
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    Cool.

    Sounds like a bunch of Alarmist "Bernie Bad" propaganda.:bored:

    That said, I will believe when I see it.:salute:
     
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    Reading your post reminded me of a quote: "There are 3 types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics". Can't remember who said it though so sorry.

    In any case everyone in this country has a chance to become a 1 percenter. Everyone. They just have to work hard at it. If you don't put in the work then you never will be. And that is how it should be.
     
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    There will be no show, Biden won't even put up a fight (that is if he even knows he is being attacked in the first place). He is a trojan horse, whether he is aware of that or not, nothing more.

    His campaign promises are worthless as he won't run for reelection, he has zero support (let alone enthusiasm) in the party, not only AOC and the Squad but the enforcement arm Antifa/BLM will turn on Biden in a Havana minute.... It will be over before it starts, we won't even know that something happened before Biden starts rubberstamping Bernie's communist decrees.
     
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    Well, I'm not so sure that the old-guard Establishment is going to be that easy to topple. I think Krystal and Saagar are interesting to watch, just to get a perspective on what the Socialists are thinking. The Socialist podcasters have been the only ones to criticize the Biden campaign (aside from conservatives, of course).

    Just a different perspective from what the right wing rhetoric tells us. This video says that Biden plans to fill a lot of his cabinet positions with Lincoln Republicans. I expect those old establishment RINO's pulled a mighty big pay to play game to have power in the Biden administration. You know there's a lot of money involved and all those players switch loyalties depending on who has the most cash.

    The thought that all these Democrats who think they are getting the Republicans out of power are actually voting for Republicans is pretty amusing. LOL

    The Progressive perspective:

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    They are "floating" the names of Lincoln "republicans" to make it look like Biden is a "uniter", it's pure propaganda, nothing more. When push comes to shove they will hardly let him have even one token republican even in the most insignificant position in his cabinet, let alone more than one. Will Biden or Pelosi start a civil war against the Squad in order to have republicans in the Cabinet? I doubt it very much, I can't even blame them for this, it's just not worth fracturing the party over.

    The Dem/Socialist party will revolt if he tries, the last thing they are interested in is "unity" and moderation, they will be pushing their uber-leftist agenda as if there is no tomorrow, they'll be pushing for statehood for Puerto Rico and DC which will insure their permanent control of the Senate, they will be packing the court... They don't need republicans in the Cabinet, they don't need republicans in their socialist country in the first place, or so they think. They are not quite sane, in case you haven't noticed :D
     
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    I suspect this is all true, but there's no chance of communist decrees happening. Even Bernie knows 21stC first world societies will never stand for it, least of all the Progressive Left. That doesn't mean you won't get some kind of quasi-theocracy or totalitarian state, though. In which case it's been nice knowing you. You'd actually be marginally better off under communism.
     
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    You think it's unlikely Trump will lose? Why? It's likely he will lose, and most folk seem to realise that. You're out of the loop.
     
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    Well, since Biden's brain has left the building, every other party ideology is going to try to grab the puppet strings. It will be quite the competition. I'm not totally willing to bet on who gets control in the short run: the the Republican RINOs or the PostModern Socialists, but Biden won't be in control.

    It seems like perhaps the first ideology to go obsolete in America may be the moderate Democrat. I know many of the classic liberals shifted to the Republican Party in the 1980's, (or Libertarian). Now the radicals are moving in to the empty space to shove what remains of the moderate Democrat out.

    One thing we know for sure...

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