This Patriotic American Adheres to the BIG Five....C's

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The author did not claim specifically that being conservative or Christian made you more of a patriot.

    However if your goal is to change this country into some other country you like better that does not seem to me to particularly patriotic.
     
  2. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Good for you Tits
     
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    That statement should not be applied only to liberals. Doesn't it also depend on what the change is?
     
  4. Ddyad

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    I doubt that you are a "White Supremacist". You will have to prove it. ;-)

    OTOH, Trump has always been a liberal. Has Trump called for any change in government policy or law that has not been part of the liberal agenda?
     
  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Of course. But most if what most leftists want these days doesn't make anything better and much of it makes things worse.
     
  6. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    You got to be kidding! Trump erased all of obama's liberal tax hikes, and he lifted all of the liberal obama's business killing regulations which in turn gave us the greatest economy ever before COVID struck. Trump erased any and all of obama's liberal agenda. Trump is a capitalist....and thus makes him a Conservative in any or all of his economic policies. Trump stopped the illegal immigration that was allowed to continue under obama's rule. Trump built the WALL that helped reduce illegal immigration that obama's liberal policy that saw crime increase with illegal entry.
    How about obama's $1.5 billion gift to the American hating Iran so that they can continue building nukes--that Trump put a stop to by putting heavy duty sanctions on Iran so that they couldn't get the chance to terrorize people in the Middle East and across the world. Everything Trump did was anti liberalism pro American with an America First agenda which was the exact opposite of the liberal /obama/biden agenda that is an America Last agenda.
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course it was. What other reason would one choose an avatar like that?

    The word 'trigger' is a trendy word, the original term for it was 'troll'.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are no thugs who espouse democracy and none are welcome to the democratic party. Marxism is not embraced by liberalism.

    On the other hand, Trump embraces his fellow hate mongering militia groups.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    You should change your avatar to 'facthater', because Obama did not give one dime to Iran.

    If you deposit money in a bank, and I grant you access to YOUR money for trade off of some kind, that is not a gift. That is leverage expended for a purpose useful to America. So, by allowing Iran access to ITS OWN MONEY. we got an agreement that stalled the development of nukes for 15 years, giving us time to regroup when the day comes.

    I realize you are probably going to point to 'pallets of cash' implying we gave them money. No, that's not what happened. The banks with Iran's cash were sanctioned so Iran could not access their own funds. Through a series of technical maneuvers, America was able to remove THEIR DEPOSITS, place them on a pallet, and SEND THEIR CASH back to Iran, their rightful owners. IN other words. This was deemed worth it because it stalled nuclear development for about 15 years, due to estimates from the nuclear community. Whatever complains you are going to assert iran would do with the money, would not be as serious to the world at large, especially Israel, if Israel had a nuclear bomb. It was a calculated move.

    After the leverage was exhausted ( by allowing access) Trump, by pulling out of the deal, tore up the agreement limiting their development to nukes, so now they can build nukes, and we have no leverage.

    It was a mind bogglingly stupid thing to do, what Trump did.
     
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    "Innocent".

    No, trolling the left is not innocent. You know what you are doing, and I don't care how long the left have been quietly allowing you to get away with it.

    If you were anything but disingenuous, you would have wrote 'liberalismhater', to prevent any confusion as to your intent.
    You know damn well that 'libhater' sounds like 'liberal hater. Why Because 'liberalism' is never called 'libs', only LIBERALS ARE CALLED 'LIBS'. If you were really compassionate, as you claim, you wouldn't have put the word 'hate' in your avatar, period.
     
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    Yes, yes it is.
     
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    It was the very first sentence of the OP.

    Sometimes its nice to give people an idea of just what ideals make up that person's pro/patriotic American life.

    My goal is to pay off my Capital One card by March 11th.
     
  13. Andrew Jackson

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    Lolwut?:roflol:

    So?

    Jewish Liberals AREN'T "Patriotic"?

    Good luck with that one.:bored:
     
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    Sorry I don't have any idea how you reached that conclusion from what he wrote.
     
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    You are MORE THAN WELCOME in the Big Tent!
     
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    Who said Jewish Liberals aren't patriotic?
     
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    1. JFK cut taxes.
    2. Liberal politicians will reduce the regulatory burden on Big Business donors - if they pay for it.
    3. Obama, Biden, The Clintons have all opposed illegal immigration very recently.
    4. Many liberal politicians supported border walls before they were against them.
    5. Paying off Iran seems to have been more about payola than liberalism.
    6. Trump's agenda was very pro-American, but Trump, like many other liberals, has always been pro-American. OTOH, conservatives like The Bushes, Cheneys, Bill Kristol, Paul Weaver, Steve Schmidt seem to be rather anti-American.

    Unlike all of our professional liberal and conservative politicians Trump is not a profession politician. IMO, that is what has made him so different and so despised by our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.
    Ordinary American liberals, Democrats, and independents voted to elect Trump in 2016 and most likely did it again in 2020.

    “Media reports on government actions, whether debates, legislation, or regulation, almost always present them in terms of pure policy. New laws are for a specific purpose, perhaps even a noble one. But what if that isn't the real purpose of the exercise? What if politics is largely about fund-raising and moneymaking? The commercial motives of the Permanent Political Class in acting or not acting are rarely questioned and virtually never fully understood.” EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, BuyVotes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013. p. 2, 3.
     

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