“These Teacher Unions Are Out Of CONTROL”

That's it. If workers were protected...



... far fewer workers would get sick. You can get them on Amazon now.

 

He took the Republican Party in a different direction. It isn't one he and they can sustain. The interests of low-income Americans are far better aligned with Democrats. Biden is going to keep average folks in their home or apartment, make sure they have food on the table, and get them the vaccine.

Huh? Just don't cut rates for higher incomes.

 

This statement makes it sound like you aren't currently doing it and if that's the case, I absolutely don't think you're qualified or aware of the need to get back to face to face instruction. Well I am currently doing it with adults (college). It's horrible. The lack of focus is astounding.

Just the killing of their futures.....awesome. And it's not the schools job to protect grandparents who may or may not be living in homes with children (who have been shown to not transmit covid at anywhere near the rate they do other diseases, like the flu). In fact, if a grandparent is living at home with children, they're probably at much greater risk during flu season, but nobody shuts down during flu season. While covid is more dangerous to old people, they're much less likely to get it from a child. They're highly likely to get the flu from a child though. Either way, the schools/teachers are screwing over kids.....the very people they're supposed to be helping.

 

Beam me up, Scotty. Nothing here.

 

If you don't cut rates for higher incomes then you don't have a tax cut.
Personally, I think we all should be paying higher income taxes.

 

You don't know who I am or how I taught subjects to students who were unable to enroll in my courses, or what I would do if I was teaching today.

Whose lack of focus? Yours?

Their future won't be killed unless this goes on for a lot longer.

If schools aren't following protocols, they should be. You have no right to expect teachers to be complicit in putting students at risk.

They're at far less risk from flu.

The protocols work if they're followed. Would you fault teachers for insisting the school follow CDC guidelines?

Your attitude toward teachers who risk getting covid and taking it home to their loved ones only makes teaching a less and less desirable job. Already, teachers make less than the national average salary.

No wonder American school suck.

 

You can have a tax cut for some and not others.

 

Not sure what taxes you plan to cut. Over 70% of federal income taxes are paid by the top 10% of earners.

Who Pays Income Taxes? - Foundation - National Taxpayers ...
www.ntu.org › foundation › tax-page › who-pays-inco...

The top 10 percent of earners bore responsibility for over 71 percent of all income taxes paid and the top 25 percent paid 87 percent of all income taxes. Both of ...

 

That's why I said if. But since you didn't say you were despite me questioning it, I'm now convinced that you aren't and haven't taught remotely. Your opinion on remote teaching is meaningless.

Theirs, but you knew that. Stop deflecting.

Which is exactly what many lefties are pushing.

Students aren't at risk, the data is crystal clear on this.

Not necessarily. They're at far less risk IF THEY HAVE the flu vs IF THEY HAVE covid. However, when it comes to children transmitting diseases, they're MUCH MORE LIKELY to pass the flu on to an elder.

If the mortality rate for covid is 10 times what it is for the flu for the elderly, but you're 20 times more likely to contract the flu....guess which is more dangerous?

I fault people for pushing things that are anti science and anti data, which is what the left is doing by saying schools should be shut down.

Everybody is at risk. But once again the data is crystal clear, teaching poses a very minimal risk.

Yea, too many people not caring about kids futures.....bravo for being in that group.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

What's your point? I wouldn't cut taxes for rich people (the top bracket), not when we have this...

 

I taught first-year university accounting to senior high school students--it's two courses at the high school level--entirely online. To get credit, students had to pass a comprehensive final exam put out by the book publisher. I created the course for students who wanted to graduate a year early from high school, but I made it available to any student in the school.

I also put American history online and encouraged students to work with interested adults, particularly parents or grandparents, in going through course materials. The students would submit essays and take online exams.

Their grade was determined only by a series of exams at the conclusion of the course.

You're focused and your profs aren't? You figure, do you, they would have focus if they were teaching in person? Hohhhh-Kayyyyy...

Don't be ridiculous. Vaccines will put students back in class, likely along pre-pandemic lines.

They're not at great risk when protocols are followed. When protocols aren't followed, corrective measures should be taken immediately. Teachers have a professional duty to maintain safe learning conditions for students.

There are 500,000+ dead Americans in a year from covid, mostly older people. Figure it out, fer crissake.

Non responsive. Again ... Would you fault teachers for insisting the school follow CDC guidelines?

Teachers, especially older teachers, are at some risk. Your trash talk, insults, etc. toward frontline workers is evident.

 

Employers should pay tax on the purchase of labor. The employee should receive an entire salary. When they, in turn, purchase things, they pay taxes on those things. That taxation should be progressive, according to the salary.

 

I'm the professor. I've been teaching online classes for years and have been doing remote/virtual courses since covid. But I'm not talking about online classes. We're discussing remote/virtual learning which you clearly haven't done. The students sitting at home watching a video feed aren't focused, it's ridiculous. If you'd actually done this, you'd know but you clearly haven't.

You hope and I hope. Not exactly what many on the left are pushing.

More deflection.

We're not talking about overall numbers. We're not talking about New York and Californias nursing home deaths. We're talking about the risks of getting it from children (which is minimal, unlike the flu).

If the guidelines are blatantly wrong, absolutely. But do the guidelines say anything about children being in school? That's not the CDC's area so when it comes to what we're discussing, the CDC isn't the shot caller here.

Well seeing how I am one of them, my viewpoint is valid and comes from experience. You're not and haven't been in this environment.

 

That's fine.

 

I did it starting more than twenty years ago. I taught teachers how to use computers in instruction.

I have done it without the very convenient and useful tools available today. How about you? How long have you been using computer instruction?

You're calling me a liar. I've been teaching computer science since the early 1980s and working with computers since the 1960s. I put my American history and accounting classes entirely online in the 1990s. My history classes were a hybrid of online and classroom instruction when the students were actually assigned to my classroom.

What a croc! The left in education want kids back in public school classrooms.

Of course.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/index.html[/QUOTE]

So, who should teachers consult regarding their duty to act in loco parentis?

Yes, I have as I explained. I did it without video conferencing tools available today.

 

More teachers' union hypocrisy-

CA teachers union president who lead school closure charge ...
https://www.newsbreak.com/californi...-dropping-daughter-off-at-in-person-preschool
A group known as Guerilla Momz is calling Berkeley Federation of Teachers president Matt Meyer a hypocrite after spotting him dropping his two year old daughter off for in-person instruction at a private pre-school. "Meet Matt Meyer. White man with dreads and president of the local teachers' union," the group...

Rules for thee, but not for me.

 

More of your teacher bashing?

This is what the union president said:

"There are major differences in running a small preschool and a 10,000 student public school district in terms of size, facilities, public health guidance and services that legally have to be provided," Meyer added. "We all want a safe return to school. The Berkeley Federation of Teachers is excited that Berkeley Unified will be reopening soon with a plan, supported by our members and the district, to get our students back in classrooms starting later this month."​

https://www.foxnews.com/us/berkeley...-dropping-daughter-off-at-in-person-preschool

 

You should know that, in politics, there are always two sets of truths. I haven't seen both sides agree on anything in a long time.

 

That is what he said but I think he is wrong.

 

You think he's wrong after his union negotiated an agreement to open the schools?

 

His union didn't negotiate an agreement to open the schools. What happened was his union was finally forced to cave in under the pressure from "fuming parents", and compromise on the union's "gold standard" plan that has kept schools closed for this long, and probably a few more months to go.

In Berkeley, school reopening pits liberal parents against teachers' union

BERKELEY, Calif. — In the most liberal city in one of the most liberal states in the country, parents are fuming at public sector unions over the delayed return to in-person classes at public schools.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-berkeley-school-re-opening-pits-liberal-parents-against-teachers-union/ar-BB1dYCYQ?fb_comment_id=1171497172969462_1171569652962214%3Fc&c=17757013452412924196&mkt=en-us

Yes, he was wrong to keep the public schools closed for so long when his own kid was enjoying the privilege of being back to school in her fancy private school.

 

It's so bad. The Leftists have created an "Elite Class".

After Leading School Closures, Berkeley Teachers Union President Spotted Dropping Daughter Off at In-Person Preschool <-- LINK




Parent groups are crying "hypocrisy" after a video surfaced showing the president of the Berkeley teachers union dropping off his 2-year-old daughter at an in-person preschool.

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What a scumbag. These are the Leftist elite. They operate by a different set of rules while they tell you how to live your life.

 

You don't understand how teachers bargain. "Fuming parents" identified by noisy media presentations aren't going to move teachers who are very good at figuring out where parents are really at.

I know how teacher bargaining works because I headed up bargaining.

Teachers have a moral, and legal obligation in some jurisdictions, to act in loco parentis and protect their students. Schools, run by local elected school boards are sometimes more interested in politics than students.

If I was running bargaining today, I would recommend we indicate to parents by teachers communicating with them directly--call them on the telephone--we would rely on CDC guidelines and shut down classrooms, even schools, that failed to meet those standards.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/index.html

You and your Trumper pals can fulminate until you go blue in the face.

Do teachers have to get a vaccination before they go back into the classroom? No, of course not. Vaccines are just another part of the toolkit.

Can you tell your child he (or she) doesn't have to wear a mask? Not unless you want him sent out of the classroom.

 

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Teachers who get paid on average less than the national average wage are part of a elite?

You Trump types don't live in the real world. "Parent groups" of yapping rightwingers you organize don't represent the community as a whole.

Teachers to school district management--follow CDC guidelines or we won't be in the classroom.

 

A guy taking his child to in-person schooling while stopping the masses from doing the same is not the elite to you? You would have been a good serf in the Soviet Union.