Feeling any more sympathetic to Meghan Markal after Oprah interview?

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  1. crank

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    They never really have been, it's just that most of them have enough self-respect not to carry on like pork chops publicly.

    Hank 8 a notable exception.
     
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    And yet, Africans keep coming to Britain in droves.
    If they "have it so bad", why not move to another country? There are plenty of English-speaking countries in Africa, for instance.

    More Africans are going to come and then there's going to be more complaining.
     
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    Perhaps the royal family was right to cut him off now.

    Charles probably foresees exactly what you see.

    If Harry is given more money right now, his future alimony payments are going to be higher. Charles may be looking out financially for his son by withholding the money now. He'll need that money later when he finds himself left high and dry.

    And I totally wouldn't put it past that woman to have married him for the money, fame, and title.
     
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    No. he wouldn't starve. But he is a sensitive and vulnerable person. He has bet everything on this relationship..........(giving up a lot) but he is smitten....... almost blindly so. (not nec a negative. Love being blind and all.;-) But she has an American mentality........where divorce is a common option. (she is divorced once) It has been HER doing that they stepped away from the royal life and moved to CDA and then to the US. She was not prepared to adjust to the life she married into But it seems she expects him to adjust to a major change , leave his country, his family ,his position, his fond link with the military.........)) He seems very committed. and could get hurt badly. And now she is prepared to blow up the monarchy. Something not quite right with that picture.
     
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    Now that you mention it. Not to be to critical...... but her role in suits was not exemplary. (of skill or talent)
     
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    Kate always liked William, and she did go after him. Her family was British, extremely wealthy, and she went to all the right schools - yet even with everything that she had, she knew that she was not in a social position to marry the future king. When William was told to break up with Kate, he did and she accepted it - even though she was probably very hurt. Later on they got together again and the rest is history.

    Now let's look at Megan. She came from a poor, mixed race and broken family, and she was married before - yet she thought nothing of going after Prince Harry. When William told Harry to break up with her as William did with Kate, she freaked and said his family didn't want him to be happy.

    There is no way the British people would ever accept Megan, knowing that they themselves would never have the presumption to go after a prince.
     
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    I like the British royal family and dislike anything that discredits it. Prince Charles could have avoided a lot of problems if he had treated Lady Diana better.
     
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    Excellent point.


    Personally, I suspect it is a lot more than skin biology , but more to do wit her attitude for wanting to control a situation , she had little control over. One thing is clear from the IV.......there is plenty of anger on the couples part.
    we have one side of the situation. The Palace will refrain from getting into the mud publicly........as they should. Most families have an understanding of what is family and personal.........and not for public consumption. She cannot complain now about what the tabloids say.......as she willingly gave them the fodder ...

    I suspect tat also she would have preferred to do the Royal events HER way......as opposed to following the Royal protocols.

    Lots of drama and sensationalism. Wonder how much fallout her will be.
     
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    To be fair, he was basically forced to marry her. It was an arranged marriage. And she was NUTS, poor thing.
     
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    Sorry I don't see this as Charles looking out for Harry. I think Charles is trying to push Harry out of the limelight so that the focus is solely on future King William. Anyway, the British courts generally don't enforce prenuptial agreements so he is no better or worse off in California than London other than now he is able to make his own money. She was inconsistent about the security issue as she had said she was so worried about Archie and then when he was there she said she had told them she was so worried about Harry having security, not her and Archie.

    Anyway, the only thing interesting to me in the interview which I finally watched this evening was that they had a miscarriage. I hadn't known that before, but I don't really follow them religiously.
     
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    The fact is that Charles never loved Diana. He could not marry the lady he loved for some old fashioned (relic) of a custom............(Camilla) Diana was young and naive.but she was acceptable and a "virgin". Camilla was always there in the background. He should have not married Diana.....but he was pressured........by his dad and particularly his Uncle. (that was assassinated)

    Charles has matured and has his love by his side now. He is also right not to respond about that IV. It is getting enough publicity as it is.
     
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    There has been a lot o damage done now. Not sure it is fixable. Not sure it matters to Meagan.......she essentially got what she wanted..and now has the attention of almost the entire world. for her expose. William will continue in his role being prepared to be King at some point. That has been his life all along. Don't think he would jeopardize that. Whatever is discussed within the firm now......will probably remain a family and private matter. As it should .
     
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    When Charles married Diana, Camilla was married to an Andrew Parker-Bowles at the time. They divorced in 1995, Diana was more popular than Camilla by the british Royal fans.
     
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    When Harry married Meghan, There was a tradition that was broken. Harry married someone that was biracial. A white father and a black mother. and she is a native of Los Angeles, California. You look at Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Philip who was born in Corfu, Greece. There may have many that married from other countries. Look it up if you have time.
     
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    Sure she was. But Love is LOVE........ and the fans don't choose who a prince loves.

    Yes. Camilla was married........ she got tired of waiting for Charles to settle down. She was his confidant during the wedding, the honeymoon.......and pretty much all along. A "shadow wife"??
     
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    Prince Charles knew Camilla in school and probably had an affair with her. She didn't have the right 'moral' and probably family qualifications to become his wife, so he married Diana. Actually Diana was being considered for Andrew, but ended up with Charles instead. Camilla rekindled the affair with Charles later on, and that's what drove Diana 'nuts'.

    I think there was a lot of jealousy towards Diana by the royals because of the attention she was getting, so to have her husband indifferent to her as well, could only have made the situation worse.
     
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    Yeah, but Meghan will take the $14 million house.

    And he may not be able to set foot on US territory again, if he doesn't make the mandated alimony payments. (They will arrest him, especially since he's no longer considered a member of the royal family) and on top of that, it will make him look bad in public opinion if he doesn't pay all the alimony payments. And Meghan would probably hold his child hostage in the US.

    I don't think you've really thought about this.
     
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    The name was Harry's choice.
    Named after his commanding officer Major Tom Archer-Burton. Known to his troops as Archie.
    The amount of fuss made over the naming of their child is just another indication of the toxic nature of the press stirring up hatred for the sake of revenue.
    The couple have every right to name their son whatever they want and it's nobody else's damn business.
    If they wanted to name him Sue after a Johnny Cash song that is their right.
     
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    That would require changing the constitution if Harry objected to being removed.
    I imagine he would be delighted but don't forget that after Harry and his offspring the next in line would be Prince Andrew.
     
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    Normally I disagree with Piers Morgan but this time I think he is spot on, saying he doesn't believe a word coming out of Meghan's mouth.
     
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    It was always a tradition for royalty to marry royalty. It was broken in Britain when William married Kate who was a commoner. Also, Kate's mother was a business woman and that was not acceptable. This is why Fergie who was also a commoner, was despised by Prince Phillip.

    Prince Philip's uncle Lord Mountbatten was Queen Elizabeth's 2nd cousin as well as the nephew of Tsarina Alexandra. William broke up with Kate as the family requested, and then afterwards reunited with her.

    Williams was allowed to break the tradition of marrying royalty, only because of the problems Charles had with Diana. Kate's family was aware of their social position, so they remained very discreet to keep Kate from being hurt.
     
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    Meghan gave up a well paid acting career to marry Harry. She earned a lot more than the £55,000 a year Harry was earning in the Army.

    They have both made sacrifices in order to follow their own path in life.
    I thought ''rugged individualism'' was supposed to be a good thing, not living off the state as the couple were previously accused of.
    Also, aren't freedom of speech and the right of reply principles that conservatives and libertarians aspire to anymore?
    Isn't it liberals that are supposed to want to do away with them.

    It seems that blind hatred for a woman who campaigns for racial and sexual equality will make some people abandon their principles quicker than you can say Archie Harrison Mountbatten Windsor.
     
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    King Edward was right; the monarchy was wrong. If Edward had his way, this problem would have been resolved before WWII.

    Meghan isn't the first American to wed royalty. Grace Kelly became Princess of Monoco. Perhaps they learned from the Edward fiasco.
     
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    I remember that Grace Kelly became Princess Grace when she married Prince Rainier III of Monaco and had children with him. She died from a car accident on September 14, 1982. Princess Diana also died from a car accident in France, August 31, 1997. There were two others that died with her.
     

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