This won't take away our joy': North Carolina wedding venue denies gay couple marriage

Georgia
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=georgia+MBL+election

 

they can believe whatever they want, they can't discriminate against customers based on those beliefs as a company open to the public, they could though become a private members only club, but then they have to advertise their membership rules, and most do not want to advertise that they discriminate

 

If you can't make it about race, the left go the next best thing LGBTQ

 

1.North Carolina may not have other available venues with the same frequency as New York especially in small towns or rural areas. Bigots tend to congregate in certain geographic locations. Hell, sometimes they work very hard to enforce their views beyond their own venue as a social or moral constraint that they see as a 'community standard' by blackballing, and shunning businesses that dare to break ranks against the social order. If there is one in a 50 mile radius, willing to look the other way, it may cost more for less because gay couples are by definition more vulnerable to their more tight options and businessmen are not stupid.

2.Normally, I don't much care whether a businesses like 'my type'. I pay my money, I get my sandwich. Its supposed to be their problem, not mine so I let it be their problem not mine. If I were to get married, as long as I get my venue, the chairs, the banquet tables, I won't even remember last month's snide remarks and dirty looks by the time my happy day comes and they won't be around to share more.

3. Sharing such stories with the media is a time honored American tradition as old as Ben Franklin's time as an apprentice printer. Why on earth should gay people deprive themselves of an opportunity to share their truth and experience with the good people all over the county, state and country?

 

Like Pie and Ice cream..... LGBTQ, race and stereotyping is the preferred dish of the DNC

 

This is America

 

Not really. Private business is something of a misnomer. They are public organizations, private businesses offering a service to the public. It is illegal for them to discriminate on certain bases, like race or creed. It is quite legal to discriminate on anything BUT those bases. like the shoes/shirt regulations.

Then there are private clubs, which can discriminate on any basis they choose. Internet forums fall into the private club classification. These don't offer services to the public but only to their members, and membership is limited to those who sign the TOS

These end-runs around the Civil Rights laws were gone over to a fare thee well back when these laws were first written

 

Oh, you are a science denier. Got it.

 

You're not being clear at all. You said that you'd favour a "let it hang" attitude in cases of discrimination. The question is a simply whether you're saying that should apply to all discrimination, including based on things like religion?

You see, discrimination on some grounds have been legally prohibited for decades and yet there hasn't been any great outcry that they are an attack on freedom or should be scrapped. That is only raised in certain examples and all the actual legal challenges and calls for changes or exceptions to the law only apply in those specific cases. To put it bluntly, I'm saying the claim this is about a general principle of freedom is a lie.

It does, but I don't see the relevance to the thread? This isn't about people asking honest questions. The owners of this business didn't have any questions about same-sex marriage, they had a set of definitive and unconditionally answers.

There is a wider issue of being able to cut through out natural and instinctive biases and discrimination to truly understand different types of people but I don't see anti-discrimination laws as any kind of fundamental blocker to that process and in part I'd see them as a benefit, especially in the context of them apply to a whole range of identified characteristics and ultimately protecting everyone.

They can and do cry that though, and legally speaking they're right. In that jurisdiction, it is legal to discriminate against same-sex couples but illegal to discriminate against Christian couples (for example) and they're just fine with that.

 

I would not refuse a Trumpist service however I would not patronize any business that had Trumpist affiliations.

 

What I mean by "clearly" here is that anti-discrimination laws exist. They are already on the books and being enforced.

Yes, discrimination on some grounds has been legally prohibited but that hasn't stopped discrimination on those grounds. The apparent lack of "outcry" is solely because people have found ways to discriminate against others while pretending not to or acting behind the scenes. Laws can't make a person unbiased. They only define the behaviors that will not be OPENLY accepted.

The point I was making about people being uncomfortable talking about race was to point out how we, as people, often avoid talking about uncomfortable topics so as to appear to be bigoted. Any of the sensitive subjects (ie. race, religion, politics, sexuality) fall under that umbrella. I just race as the X factor because someone else mentioned it (I didn't go back to look but I think it was this thread).

In this specific incident, the business owner and/or manager decided to deny this couple the option of using their venue. But, it is possible they could have opened to the idea of hosting the event if they didn't have a "full stop" toward homosexual couples. It's those full-stop beliefs that usually indicate one may be uninformed about X (whatever the bias is).

It is hypocritical. I have yet to meet any Christian who is not. Historically, Christians have never been able to take the nonsense they dish out. No surprises there.

 

Please feel free to educate us and show us a test that can be given to an infant showing that they are homosexual. I won't hold my breath.

 

You can seek and find now before you die. I cannot do that for you. You must do that for yourself. Or you can find out for yourself, first hand when you die. That said, I was referring to the plan of salvation and the principles of faith, repentance, and baptism....straight is the gate and narrow the way, no unclean thing, etc. While God doesn't discriminate as to whom salvation is offered. He does discriminate in the requirements and standards of conduct for it to apply. Don't believe me?... ask Satan.

 

And a lie is the same as the truth because they are both told? Give me a break, man. The perverse is not chaste, no matter the cloak. Remember Little Red Riding Hood?...my my Grandma, what big teeth you have.

 

Looks like reading comprehension is a struggle for you. I did not say this state or case involved sexual orientation discrimination laws. I pointed out that some states include it.

 

so you admit your assertion is baseless nonsense you pulled from your ass. thank you.

 

no. but same sex and opposite sex marriages are identical.

your opinion of same sex couples has no bearing on reality, or the law. same sex marriage are identical to yours.

you really like irrelevant red herrings don't you? lol

 

I see you still cling to this moronic strawman.

 

Say it till the cows come home, and it won't change the fact that same sex marriage is not identical to opposite sex marriage. Otherwise they wouldn't be called two different things. Same sex is identical to same sex. Opposite sex is identical to opposite sex. But same sex is not identical to opposite sex, nor opposite to same. A wolf is a wolf. A lamb is a lamb. But they are not identical. A wolf is not a lamb, nor a lamb a wolf. They are both animals. But they are not identical. Marriage of man and woman is the foundation of society. Same sex is the foundation of nothing. It is a perversion at odds with life itself. One is genuine and real. The other is counterfeit and fake. Satan pretends to be God. But he is not. There is genuine charity which can only come from ones heart by choice. Then there is counterfeit charity which is taken at gunpoint thru taxes and given in the name of charity. But it is not charity. One is real, the other is fake. Dressing a monkey in a space suit doesn't make it an astronaut. And legally uniting two people of the same gender does not make it identical to the marriage of a man and woman. You are dreaming if you think it does. Wake up!

 

There is some real sick **** contained in this post.
I hope you can find Christ before you die.
Peace

 

I state doctrinal fact in conjunction with a personal knowledge. It is you with the baseless assertions.

 

Unless you can point out the sick part, I'm afraid the sickness in this matter is yours.

 

Reality doesn’t give a **** how you feel. Same sex marriage is identical to opposite sex marriage. This is a demonstrable fact of reality and in no way debatable.

 

So you can’t demonstrate in any way that your god the exists. Thank you.

 

So a private business can refuse service to disabled, women, races, or people of a specific religion?