This won't take away our joy': North Carolina wedding venue denies gay couple marriage

You seem to be struggling with the definition of words. A same sex marriage is identical to your opposite sex marriage.

 

you would have to demonstrate that a god exists, before you can make this assertion.

 

and also subject to anti discrimination laws. They can not refuse service based on race, religion, sex, or national origin. Some states take it further to include sexual orientation.

 

huh?

you are born black. Please show me any test at all that confirms that one is born homosexual

You insult blacks hen you try to use that as a comparison. 2 people walk into a room, which one is black? 2 people walk into a room, which one is a homosexual? I could claim to be homosexual and you have no way of proving if I am or not..............

 

So are you arguing for all anti-discrimination laws and regulations applying to private business to be scrapped?

Because I never hear that argument, especially not in general terms away from specific incidents. I do hear exactly the kinds of thing quoted in the article from the business owner, arguing that they should be free to discriminate against the same-sex couple while at the same time complaining that others discriminate against them because of their actions. You can't have it both ways, it's an all or nothing.

 

Well, not exactly. Clearly, the laws are there for a reason (even if some people don't think they are).

Have you ever heard someone say "I don't mean to sound racist but..." then they say something about a person of a different race? I've heard it countless times and a good percentage of it is NOT racist. I believe a huge part of why we can't talk about race openly is because everybody is afraid to say something that might be construed as racist when, in reality, people just have questions in their minds and no idea how to get them answered for fear of being called racist. Does that make sense? Of course, I'm not talking about the stone-cold racists that just ignore anything that refutes their beliefs that all minorities are worthless POSs. I'm talking about rational people.

As to your second point, I agree (see post #45). If a business owner wants the "freedom" to deny his/her product or service to certain people, they can't cry that they are being discriminated against because some people will not patronize them because of those beliefs. This is also the reason I don't understand why some posters here complain about diversity hiring without taking into account they most likely received preferential treatment SOLELY because they are not a minority. So, bias is okay as long as your (not you, global "you") demographic is the one being favored? Nonsense.

 

Sexual orientation is not included, the article even states that. You'd know that if you read it.

 

They are a public business, open to the public.

https://www.erieinsurance.com/blog/anti-discrimination-laws-for-business

 

Is Twitter a public business?
Is Facebook a public business?
Are restaurants a public business?
Are hosting companies a public business?

The left doubled down only a few months ago on this very subject and now you've flipped rather suddenly.

 

Does Twitter or Facebook not allow posts due to sexual orientation.

 

So it's okay to discriminate against some things and not others? Is that your stance?

 

It all depnds on context.

 

agree, but the owners have tried to taint their wedding, so I think it's good for them to let the world know, so no one else goes there and has to add this to their wedding memories

if the business feels this strong about it, they should put signs on the door and include in all their ads that they discriminate...

 

Twitter and Facebook didn't refuse service on grounds of discrimination. They closed the accounts of people who broke the terms and conditions they agreed to when signing up.

 

and they have their own TOS, that does not only apply to some groups, it applies to all

a business can have a no shirt, no shoes policy, as long as it applies to everyone

 

Poor defense, they have all blatantly discriminated against groups they don’t agree with, but the left supported that. This conversation has been done to death. I’m not surprised the immediate flip in stance now though.

 

LOL this is golden

 

Does that mean y’all will shut up about being the eternal victims of discrimination? I mean y’all support it just fine when it isn’t you. Cheer it even.

 

you mean like racist, terrorist or other hate groups? why should they support those groups posting their hate on their service

 

So businesses and governments should be able to discriminate against people claiming a religious preference then by your metrics, correct?

 

You have to give them credit though, they are impervious to nuance.

Comparing a couple wanting to celebrate their union to individuals calling for insurrection against the United States — and they still side with the latter.

 

It's not about that they feel their rights are violated. They just expect everyone to embrace their vision of what marriage SHOULD be. Many of us do not define it that way.

 

doesn't matter how others define it, legally it's marriage, I do not approve of old rich men marrying young women, but that is their choice.... I do not think they should be denied if the marriage is legal as an example

do they deny divorced people that cheated on their spouses too? or do they support that as they allow those marriages

 

I loved this part of the link

How wonderful "THEY THINK" but O`lordy-lordy-lordy someone else think another way.. You can't always have it your way, boohoo...

 

I believe that would be up to the business who caters weddings to decide by their own definition of marriage. It's the same argument that says Christians and those that believe life begins at conception should be forced to fund abortion on demand. Government has always allowed for conscientious objectors in time of war to defer from combat roles. Why can government force businesses to cater against their beliefs? There are plenty of venues that embrace, and even encourage what they call gay marriage.