Most Democrats Do Not Want To Safeguard Our Democracy

[QUOTE="Patricio Da Silva, post: 1073191519, member: 86272"]No, the 60 vote threshold has become the tool for right wing obstructionism, anti-democracy and tyranny of the minority.

The opposite is true. And Sinema is a hypocrite, because in 2010 she was criticizing it.

We are not the minority party. The constituency of 50 Democratic Senators consists of 40,000,000 more people than the constituency of 50 Republican senators. It's very similar of the house.[/QUOTE]

Democrats used filibuster 327 times, compared to only once by GOP in 2020: Report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrats-used-filibuster-over-300-times-gop-once

 

Dems pause angry demands to end the filibuster in order to ... filibuster Ted Cruz's Nord Stream sanctions bill

Seems like sometimes Dems like the filibuster.

 

republicans removed the 60 votes for SC picks, so I do not care anymore

 

Democrats used filibuster 327 times, compared to only once by GOP in 2020: Report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrats-used-filibuster-over-300-times-gop-once[/QUOTE]

Well, Duh. .

It is always the minority that filibusters, not the one who holds power.

so, correct, both parties do it

since 2007, both parties have filibustered over 600 times.

The point is, nothing is getting done, and the filibuster use to be done rarely, now it's done all the time..

But, as the graph shows, Repubs went hog wild on it during Obama

 

Here's a simple fix, vote more Democrats into the Senate to have the 60 votes they need. Isn't that how democracy works and not by changing the rules whenever it suits a party's needs?

 

Put more democrats in the Senate. You don't change the rules just because you can't get more democrats in the Senate.

 

The democrats have used the filibuster FAR more times than the republicans. Please educate yourself on the subject.

 

Dems pause angry demands to end the filibuster in order to ... filibuster Ted Cruz's Nord Stream sanctions bill

"Biden and Schumer have spent the week demanding in the shrillest terms that the Senate revert to simple majority rule. Under simple majority rule, though, Cruz’s bill would pass. Forced to choose between basic logical consistency and obeying the White House, Schumer and his caucus rolled over for the angry shrill condemning president.

"“Is this not disgraceful coddling of (colluding with?) Putin, using a racist, democracy-killing tool?!” asked Guy Benson, tongue in cheek, after Cruz’s bill was blocked. Fifty-five votes is enough for cloture in a filibuster-less Senate of the sort that Biden and Schumer want but not enough in the Senate we have. And no one was happier about that than Democrats who are on the ballot this fall, as four of the six who voted with Republicans in support of Cruz’s bill are up for reelection this year in swing states. Having the filibuster in place made it safe for them to cast a politically popular vote without fear that doing so would lead to the bill passing and putting Biden in an awkward position diplomatically."

Peggy Noonan, "who’s very far from being a “Let’s go, Brandon” righty, was aghast:"

"It’s one thing to take off the gloves with your opponents if you think you stand a chance of getting your way on policy by doing so. Biden took off the gloves knowing that he’d lose, and that members of his own party would be bruised by the punches he threw. When you know you’re destined to disappoint your base, you have to compensate by being as nasty as possible to their enemies. Partisans can forgive a lot of policy failures if you’re making it up to them with demagoguery."

He is a mean nasty soulless man and these Dems are being ridiculous with their inconsistent tantruming over the filibuster. But, the GOP is feeling pretty good about this year's elections.

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Read that far ...

I have to point out the ZERO Democrats have ever attacked OUR Capitol to overturn a free and fair election on the word of a "SITTING" president of their party. NO Democrats have ever paraded a Confederate Flag through our Capitol, not even the Confederate Army did that. NO Democrats are trying to obfuscate and rewrite the history of that SEDITIOUS attack. NO Democrats are interfering with an investigation of that INFAMOUS DAY!!!!!!!!!

IN SHORT: NO Democrats are in favor of getting rid of Democracy ... OR ... GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE!

 

Hard to argue with that.

 

I have to pat you on the back for realizing the big lie leftists are trying to pull by claiming that Republicans are taking people's right to vote away.

 

LOL. So, you are saying that if I had posted "Most Republicans are in favor of getting rid of Democracy ..." you would have also cut me off at the pass? Good for you! I apologize. You are far smarter than I gave you credit for.

 

Well, to be fair, both parties are abusing the filibuster now, but it's dems that want to fix it.

I think the talking filibuster is the best solution.

 

I never said they aren't trying to take away some voters rights. Or at least making their time to vote more difficult. It's just not going on in my State.

If laws don't allow different methods of getting a ballot to the polling place, it is only going to get tougher/longer to vote.
So, laws need to change to allow more and/or longer voting days. Or alternate methods to get the ballot in.
As this story below alludes to, there's not enough workers and polling places to make voting an easy process.

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https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/925501018/why-georgia-is-facing-long-lines-at-the-polls
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KATHY: Stephen, who's responsible for these decisions to close these polling places or not add additional ones? And what do they have to say about these findings?

FOWLER: Well, there are bipartisan county elections boards that make these decisions in conjunction with their hired supervisors and the county commissions that provide funding for their budgets. It's important to note that this is an issue that affects both white Republican areas of the state as well as Black Democratic strongholds, so it's not a partisan issue. It's ultimately about resources. And what we've seen in the numbers here in Georgia is that Black voters in particular are hit the hardest by not having the same access to resources as white voters.

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You really like to run off the handle, don't you? No, "I" am saying nothing of the kind. But, inadvertently, you've made part of my point. Generalities are hard to defend.

But to your point, there are many Republicans supporting the dimise of "Government by the People" in favor of Autocracy, IF Benedict Donald could be the Autocrat.

 

Anyone who is eligible to vote can vote. I don't know of any Republican laws which say that eligible voters can't vote.

 

And there are many Democrats who are for taking democracy away. They have taken people's rights away, fired them from their jobs for not obeying government mandates, and want to bypass voters by taking Trump out so that voters can't vote for him. Just to name a few.

 

NO Democrat has EVER participated in an attempt at sedition. You need to supply links to those bold, unsubstantiated "claims".

 

LOL. Seriously? Bernie's supporter tried to overthrow our democracy by shooting up Republicans. BLM rioters tried to storm a federal courthouse and did take over swaths of territory from the US and turned them into lawless zones. Where have you been?

 

I know a nut shot up a republican softball practice, how is he "linked" to Senator Sanders? I know most of the 2020 "riots" were instigated by RW anrchists and white supremicists.

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536

Who caused the violence at protests? It wasn’t antifa.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicalshttps://apnews.com/article/virus-ou...al-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

 

You were asked for links to your claims. Denied it and offered nothing but more unsubstantiated personal opinions.

That is so partisan.
Where have you been?

 

There are nut cases on both sides that go too far in thinking they are marching to someone's orders.

 

Do you seriously deny that one of Bernie's supporters shot up Republicans?

Do you seriously deny that Bernie called for a revolution many times?

Do you seriously deny that Biden knelt down with a BLM protester?

 

BUT!!! The progressives didn't attack OUR Capitol in an attempted seditious quest to overthrow an election (and our Government) in the belief the were acting on orders from a treasonous president.

 

Link with context? NOPE. 3x now you don't think you need to verify your claim.

I don't deny, but I have not seen any evidence he did. So I won't believe it until you can provide some truth to your claims. Again, you fail to do such things. It makes it seem as though you're being emotional over Sanders.

OMG, he knelt in silent peaceful protest manner.