There is no greater force than an idea whose time as come.

That's already happening.

 

All for it too bad the the Democrats favor policies that favor voting early and often.

 

How about this only property owners can vote and if they happen to be on welfare they are not allowed to vote.

But I don't think many property owners are on the public dole.

 

You've rebuttal is all messed up, your quote tags are misplaced.

 

It's a popular idea.

61% of Americans Support Abolishing Electoral College
https://news.gallup.com/poll/320744/americans-support-abolishing-electoral-college.aspx

Making it another example of popular ideas being blocked by the minority. Like keeping Roe unchanged. Like passing stricter gun control legislation. Like doing more about climate change. Like having a path to citizenship for qualified illegal immigrants. Pretty much the entire Dem legislative agenda is popular while the Repub's (which is basically anything Trump says it is from day to day) is not.

 

Why would ANY state not named texas California or New York agree to that?

 

You should really stop looking at polls where Dems are overrepresented such as the one you just sourced.

 

You force them to live like that because you need to be fed.

What's not harmony is having a handful of metro areas running the country.

But go on and keep trying to screw over those who feed the country....it won't work well in the long run.

 

Any poll about the electoral college should be ignored because 98% of the country has no clue why it was made to be that way in the first place....including the leftists in this thread.

 

It's only popular until people learn why it exists. Any poll like this is useless because we all know 98% of people have no clue why the electoral college came to be in the first place.

 

So you prefer to rule by majority and piss on the little guy.
Hence why the EC was created so people that think like that can't come into power by the votes of 3 states

 

You mean the document that allows itself to be redirected by vote for any unforeseen problems.
Yeah, that document.

 

Real talk.

 

IF you want to quote WHY the founders created the electoral College read "Federalist 68", in which Hamilton specifically justifies the EC as a means to make sure the general electorate is not beguiled by a glib, unqualified conman of "low character to attain the office of the Highest Magistrate of our land". We've seen the EC, constrained by "faithful elector" laws passed after the Constitution was written, has failed in that duty.

It's time to put an end to "FLY-OVER STATES" and make sure that EVERY AMERICAN'S VOTE IS COUNTED!!!!

 

Which is why the Constitution can be amended to carry on through different times.

The EC was designed for popular vote by state. And each state has a voice. When they don't have a voice (as you prefer) then you have taxation without representation. Which is why it was created in the first place.

They knew a hell of a lot more than you do as the Constitution was created to be amended.

The parties have nothing to do with EC. Elections do no matter how many parties you create. Thats a false equivalency.
And California has 55 electoral votes compared to Rhode Island has 4. Every state is guaranteed 2.
Sorry, California does not get to pick who the president is every election. I know you prefer that but it ain't happening.

You mean you prefer only Democrat states decide on whos elected. There are countries out there exactly like that.
China, Russia, Cuba. So many to choose from. Why are you here?

 

We believe in more, not less, Democracy.

I don't think republicans favor more, they favor less.

Correct?

 

You mean every American EXCAPT fly over states.
Not going to happen. lol

 

Because the president should be elected by people, not states.

One person, one vote, equalizes the weight of each vote.

Currently, a republican vote has more weight than a democrat vote, and that's not right.

 

More cheating is not more democracy, it is the antithesis there of.

 

No, that was not why the EC was created.

The person who gets the most votes was always the idea behind democracy.

The idea of electors was to have learned, educated men of wealth and property (though Hamilton didn't come right out and admit it, but I'm fairly confident that was his intention, of having electors similar to Hamilton, in stature ) so that they would make the 'wise choice' whereby the electors would be ( source, Federalist 6

..men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.

In other words, rich white guys like Hamilton who would vote according to the interests of rich white guys like Hamilton and not the narrow interests of 'factions'.

See, 'factions' ARE the LITTLE GUYS. Hamilton bitched a lot about them, he feared the populace, at large.. There is no argument supporting the candidate who got the fewest votes. There were no 'majority' or 'minority' party when the EC was created, and that was not in their thinking, whatsoever.

Oh, no, righties are going to argue that no such language (about Hamilton wanting rich white men like Hamilton ) in in the papers, but, of course, Hamilton isn't stupid.

Blacks are the little guy, so are Latinos, so you should favor getting rid of the EC.

One person one vote means that states will be taken out of the picture and each vote given equal weight. Currently , a republican vote has more weight than a democratic vote, and that isn't just.

Along with taking out the EC, I favor limiting campaigns to mostly television, and maybe only a total of 5 campaign stops to states selected at random by a lottery, every four years, federally financed equally on both sides,

This will force the candidates to a national strategy, rather than a state by state strategy.

 

What metro policies screw over farmers? Metro area vote all the time to have healthy food alternatives, and to give farmers more access and opportunities.
Who's to say people vote against the countries best interest because they live in a metro are, or a place that can sustain their quality of life?

Do you feed into the lie that republican policies favor farmers? Look how well thats worked out for them with Trumps tariffs, etc.

 

You forgot to mention that most liberal western democracies are also representative democracies whereby the president is chosen via the popular vote, and they don't even use the term 'popular' because 'popular vote' is redundant in a democracy.


The EC gives republican votes more weight than democratic votes.

That's not just.

End of argument.

 

Do you even civics? We do not live in a direct democracy. Rather, and quite intentionally, we live in a Constitutional Democratic Republic. This is done to prevent really bad ideas from becoming law simply because you can somehow manage to rally 50% +1 support for them, and is a good thing. You may wish to revisit your history lessons.

 

Nice try, the EC is not what makes us a constitutional democratic, nor does the president have the powers necessary to change us from one.
Getting rid of the EC only effects the presidential outcome..not which laws make it into our books.

 

By recent actions, they made a run at that....