Patriot front being rounded up and arrested in Idaho

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  1. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but they're kinda wussy terrorists. Shields, shin guards, and cute little uniforms.
     
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    No actually.

    What I was referring to is that according to the law I found, a riot is a felony in Idaho if it happens in a prison or if it’s more than $500 in property damage. I didn’t mention the prison part because it’s irrelevant.

    So my point was that the documents they found must have not indicated damage in excess of $500 or they would have been charged with a felony for conspiracy to riot.

    However if ALL they were charged was with conspiracy to riot based upon those documents, then those documents MUST not have indicated violence. Not because they would have been charged with felony conspiracy to riot but because if they had indicated they were going to engage in violence then they would have been charged with conspiracy to commit some OTHER violent crime like assault or murder.

    But they weren’t. Therefore those documents must not have indicated they were going to engage in property damage OR violence. Otherwise they would have gotten hit with more than misdemeanor conspiracy to commit a riot.
     
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    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    A completely predictable bonanza for the Left:
     
  4. Condor060

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    Wow, lol Deal with it? lol
    Thats funny
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Worst case would be a slap on the wrist.
    Assuming no priors, fine and probation.
     
  6. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Yup...
    Worst case would be a slap on the wrist.
    Assuming no priors, fine and probation.
     
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    Oh well, ain't that too bad...
    Boo-freaking-hoo...

    Maybe Da Feds Should Adopt Da Idaho Blueprint?
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A rioting charge does not mean that it has been determined that they were not going to engage in violence or property damage. Here is the statutory definition:

    TITLE 18
    CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
    CHAPTER 64
    RIOT, ROUT, UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY, PRIZE FIGHTING, DISTURBING PEACE
    18-6401. RIOT DEFINED. Any action, use of force or violence, or threat thereof, disturbing the public peace, or any threat to use such force or violence, if accompanied by immediate power of execution, by two (2) or more persons acting together, and without authority of law, which results in:
    (a) physical injury to any person; or
    (b) damage or destruction to public or private property; or
    (c) a disturbance of the public peace;
    is a riot.
    https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch64/sect18-6401/

    And, as I have pointed out, a rioting charge does not preclude additional charges relating to any more specific acts of violence (or any other crime) that the evidence may reveal. People can be charged with more than one offense.
     
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    I watched the 1/6 hearings last night and I think this might have been inspired by that. A copy-cat move.
     
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    BRO ARE YOU NOT LISTENING?

    I didn’t say ANYTHING ABOUT the riot charge having ANYTHING TO DO with violence.

    Im saying that if the documents they had indicated that they were going to be violent… like say they said they were going to beat or murder some homosexuals… they would not have simply been charged with conspiracy to commit a riot. They would have ALSO been charged with conspiracy to commit assault or grievous bodily harm or conspiracy to murder.

    But those documents DID NOT contain anything like that because there was no charge to suggest such.

    So given that there was ONLY a charge for misdemeanor conspiracy to commit a riot. The documentation they claim to have MUST have indicated that the property damage would be less than $500 AND there must have not been anything about violence because they weren’t charged with conspiracy to commit any violent crime.
     
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    Right, but that's for antifa and BLM types, not for White Nationalists. The government has declared White Nationalists/Supremacy as the biggest domestic terror threat, so it's odd that they've gotten away with committing all sorts of crimes in full view of the police until this weekend.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've just shown you that the definition of rioting includes violence, and that additional violence-related charges can be laid - that people can be charged with more than one thing, as evidence dictates. Indeed, Chief White has said that additional charges may follow. As you are surely aware, the situation is very early days.
     
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    Excellent news, I hope this type of investigation is how we keep antifa and fblm in check when they go on a riot spree.
     
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    I just looked up what I was referring to from memory. "The Umbrella Man". It is a strange case. "The July 27, 2020, search warrant identifies Mitchell (Mitch) Wesley Carlson, from Ramsey, Minn., as Umbrella Man."
    https://southsidepride.com/2022/02/21/what-about-umbrella-man/

    Seems like loads of evidence but no charges made but the case not closed for some reason
     
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    They have previously marched thru DC, Philadelphia, Chicago.



    That's what they do.
     
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    It's sad that you're ok with the double standard. Oh well! You'll be begging for help when ANTIFA burns your house down.
     
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    Oh THAT guy!

    Yes I recall that case. There was nothing. No evidence and no charges, simply an accusation. That's quite a bit different than your claim that "a right wing group were charged and found guilty of instigating a riot and looting while posing as left wing so that the left wing would be blamed."

    It would still make a good story...if true.
     
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    They were presumed to be opposing the prevailing political sentiment of embracing and promoting homosexuality. It’s a new world and people that oppose the prevailing political narrative are a threat to society. The only way this nation can ever be free is if we crush any and all opposition to prevailing political agendas.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Yup, reality isn't always what you want it to be. Grow up and deal with it like the rest of us.
     
  22. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    "Protestors" are by definition not violating federal law.

    I wish a few of you "constitutionalist" right wingers would actually read the damn thing just once.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    LOL
     
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    The article says nationalists. But I use the terms interchangeably. Is there really a difference? Perhaps there is a white nationalist or socialist in this forum who can educate me.
     
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    White nationalists = White supremacists in my book. If there is any difference it's negligible or simply rebranding.
     

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