Trump's lie that the FBI 'planted evidence'

Your original comment was that questioning election results is harmful to democracy. Stop trying to change the subject.

 

The thread is about the lie that FBI planted evidence.

Your reply asserted that lying is a constitutional right. You twisted 'lying' to 'challenging election results', which is fine for a brief spell, but after 64 lawsuits challenging the results and all of them FAIL, any continuing on this becomes a lie, at that juncture, from there on out.

A lie.

It's a lie because republicans have FAILED to prove their contention that 'Democrats stole the election".

when republicans fail to prove their allegation, and they continue to make it after failing to prove it, republicans are no longer telling the truth.

Some call that lying.

Capiche?

In fact, what I said was that Trump's continued insistence that Democrats Stole The Election is a lie simply because he has failed to provide evidence, and his continuing that lie has shaken confidence in Democracy in a large swath of the population, and the comment you just replied to was embolding that point.

So my comment is very much on point, and your assertion that lying is protected by the Constitution is not only silly, it's beside the point.

The point that you missed, entirely.

 

YOU said that questioning election results is harmful to democracy.

And yes, lying is protected speech, just like any other type of speech. Look at the lies that Biden has told. Is he in trouble? No.

 

He's talking about the one email modified by one DOJ lawyer. He got a year of probation. Obviously, there was a mountain of evidence used to obtain another order allowing major kook Paige to be surveilled. Also, he was punished. Trump violates the law in more important arenas, and constantly. BBBbbbbbbut a modified email!!

 

Why can't you stay on point? The FBI didn't plant evidence, did it?

 

How do you know they didn't?

 

No, I did not say that. After 64 lawsuits challenging the election results, all have not proven their allegation.

That fact means the challenge has been answered.

To continue to push the allegation after 63 court failures is to push a lie.

Given the some 30,000 lies told by Trump, you have no leg to stand on.

 

Yeah, you did say that...

"Contradicting the free and fair election that elected Biden is destroying the country..."

Since when is questioning the government bad for the country? The idea that we're free to question the government is exactly the foundation that this country was built on.

 

Question away, but 64 times the courts have said it's BS

ANSWER THIS:


Donald Trump And His Lawyers Are Making Sweeping Allegations of Voter Fraud In Public. In Court, They Say No Such Thing
https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/

Trump Cries Voter Fraud. In Court, His Lawyers Don’t.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont-11605271267

Or like usual keep ignoring it

 

I don't care if the courts ruled against Trump 640 times. He will never lose his 1st Amendment right to question the government.

 

True Diaper Don can always use his 1st, his attorney's however NEVER ARGUE HIS BIG LIE IN COURT. Good dodge, again

 

What lie?

 

Be honest. You know the one Liz Cheney wouldn't go along with?

 

They try to fix elections.
They lie on FISA warrant applications so that they can illegally spy on presidential elections and presidents.
They forge evidence to fool the FISC.
But we're supposed to believe the hysterical virgin act when the question is asked if they planted evidence?

 

Hahaha! All Trump has to say is he did not know how the documents got there. Then the burden is on the FBI to prove he knew. Good luck with that.

 

Fake News.

OF COURSE: Durham probe: FBI offered Christopher Steele $1 million to corroborate Trump allegations in dossier. “Auten also said that the FBI had no corroboration of allegations in the dossier but nevertheless took that information and inserted it into the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant to surveil former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.”

'Steele couldn't corroborate allegations in dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC through law firm'

'The FBI offered ex-British intelligence agent Christopher Steele $1 million to corroborate salacious allegations made in his dossier against former President Donald Trump and members of his 2016 campaign, but he was unable to do so, an FBI official testified Tuesday.'

'FBI supervisory counterintelligence analyst Brian Auten was the first witness in the trial of Igor Danchenko, the Russian national who served as the primary sub-source for Steele's anti-Trump dossier and has been charged with five counts of making false statements to the bureau.'

'"On October 21, 2016 [the date of the Carter Page FISA application], did you have any information to corroborate that information?" Durham asked.

'"No," Auten said, confirming that the FBI began receiving Steele’s reports, later known as the dossier, on Sept. 19, 2016, and submitted its first FISA application on Page on Oct. 21, 2016.'

'Sept. 19, 2016, was also the day that then-Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann brought white papers to a meeting at FBI headquarters with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker that alleged the Trump Organization was using a secret back channel to communicate with Kremlin-linked Alfa Bank in the weeks leading up to the presidential election.'

Hillary was using a blizzard of lies and Russian disinformation in order to fix the 2016 election.

The amount of lies and vicious attacks on our election systems that the Left has subjected Americans to over the last six years is difficult to believe but impossible to deny. In 29 days, put different folks into office.

 

May I also add.... was it truly a problem of ""Hillary was using a blizzard of lies and Russian disinformation in order to fix the 2016 election."" or the fact that the most powerful investigative agency in the world did not question her "blizzard of lies and Russian disinformation".... are they that incompetent? Nope... they had full knowledge of all that was going on...

REMEMBER..... CIA John Brennan briefed Obama and Biden of what Hillary was doing and setting up Trump with the collusion scam to deflect from her server (which implicates Obama who used that server to communicate to her using a pseudonym to hide his identity)... and that fact creates another question... did Mueller turn his head to this as he would have had to know...

Obama, Biden, and the intel community were aware of Hillary's scheme to cook up the Russian collusion scheme to deflect from her server.... they all participated in an attempted failed coup to overthrow a citizen and then duly elected president... everyone of them should be investigated for their participation....

Not only did Mueller, the FBI knew, CIA, knew...
All documented... and undeniable.... The Obama Whitehouse was in on it... how much more "in your face" can you get and no one goes to jail..
Strange how our Republican special prosecutor Mueller missed this.... maybe he did not do a very good job of investigation...
""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/



here is Brennans hand written note