Trump's lie that the FBI 'planted evidence'

FBI has the right to seize evidence.
That's the point of a house search.

 

Are you seriously unaware of this? You did not notice that Clinesmith pled guilty to adding "NOT" to the CIA's written confirmation that Carter Page was a CIA asset for the US reporting on Russian Intelligence, not an asset for Russian Intelligence spying on the US? Yet that was the basis for FOUR pretextual FISA warrants to spy on Trump.

Next are you going to tell me that you are also ignorant of the fact that Carter Page was a CIA asset just as he always claimed? That the CIA informed the FBI of this repeatedly, in writing, and apparently the FISA Court caught wind of this, so they asked about this specifically, and Clinesmith added the word NOT to the CIA email, reversing the CIA's confirmation to make it look like the CIA was confirming that Carter Page was NOT a CIA asset?

How can you be this involved, in this subject, all these years, and miss that?

I don't buy the virgin act. There is no way in hell you were unaware of this. We discussed it extensively. First we told you guys repeatedly that the FBI was lying their asses off about Carter Page to justify spying on Trump World. Then we discussed this extensively when Horowitz popped him for forging the email and submitting it to the FISA Court. You just want to keep up the pretense that it's unbelievable that the thoroughly corrupt FBI would plant evidence, steal passports, and get search warrants on a false pretense.

You guys are fine with the lawless FBI and DOJ because they are currently serving your purposes and you think you have control of them. You don't. They are wholly untrustworthy and dangerous. You'll see. They'll turn on you guys, it's in their nature.

 

Fake news. General Warrants are unconstitutional.

The following might look vaguely familiar to you:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

 

If you sellyour soul and become a paid troll you get paid for this.

 

You don't need to sell your soul that's a myth.

 

The Republican-controlled Committee released its final report on 2016 Russian election interference in August 2020, finding that despite problems with the FISA warrant requests used to surveil him, the FBI was justified in its counterintelligence concerns about Page.

The Committee found Page evasive and his "responses to basic questions were meandering, avoidant and involved several long diversions." The Committee found that although Page's advisory role in the Trump campaign from March 2016 to September 2016 was insignificant, Russian operatives may have thought he was more important than he actually was
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/trump-russia-senate.html

A longtime Manafort associate was a Russian intelligence officer.
“On numerous occasions over the course of his time of the Trump Campaign, Manafort sought to secretly share internal campaign information with Kilimnik. … Manafort briefed Kilimnik on sensitive campaign polling data and the campaign’s strategy for beating Hillary Clinton.”

 

On February 11, 2021, Page lost a defamation suit he had filed against Yahoo! News and HuffPost for their articles which described his activities mentioned in the Steele dossier. The judge said that Page admitted the articles about his potential contacts with Russian officials were essentially true.


Page's suit targeted Oath for 11 articles, especially one written by Michael Isikoff and published by Yahoo! in September 2016. The judge dismissed the suit on February 14, 2021, noting that "Page's arguments regarding Isikoff's description of the dossier and Steele were 'either sophistry or political spin'." He also said that Page "failed to allege actual malice by any of the authors, and that the three articles written by HuffPost employees were true".

 

If the FBI find anything it’s because they planted it. That’s how they work, it’s how the gestapo worked, the NKVD, the Stasi, Mao’s Red handkerchief butchers.

 

It's about inappropriateness. However, this doesn't apply here, since a public prosecutor ordered the house search.

The American people have a right to have Trump's crimes solved.
Trump is not just a simple crook. He once was POTUS and can still wreak havoc on the country.

 

QFT. Nice post. Pretty crazy that these Libs here actually have the gall to express such unfounded and at this point cult-like faith in their government 3 months from the midterms no less all while blissfully ignoring the mountain of proof to the contrary as if it doesn’t exist.

 

The accusation is 'theft'. Passports can easily slide down between folders. But of course , the right isn't going to give Garland and the FBI the benefit of the doubt. ANd, who knows, maybe there is another reason. Are they diplomatic passports? Those are US property when leaving office.

 

Yes, the FISA ground has been thoroughly covered.

But, one thing is certain, I'm not taking your word for it. Please provide a source that is the basis for your opinion.

You should have done that at the outset, and do not assume everyone interprets public events the way you do.

Link please

 

As for lying, there's plenty of lying to go around, such as the Trump lie that 'FBI are a bunch of angry dems out to get him. See you don't mind if Trump lies to his teeth, so i don't see how your concern has any credibility when it's merely some unknown attorney altering an email when the President lies his ass off just about everyday of the week during his entire presidency.


I wouldn't go around claiming the FBI plants evidence en masse, especially against the president because one FBI attorney no one has heard of who altered an email used as the basis to approve a FISA warrant (or so you say) against one Carter Page, who was a nobody, just a guy who did business with Russians. Speaking of Russians, it seems Russians were popping up everywhere in Trumpland, so I can hardly blame the FBI being suspicious, they actually believed they would be derelict if they didn't surveill. Their hearts were in the right place, but not one will give them benefit of the doubt, they will accuse them of 'being out to get Trump' and that's a damn lie.

The IG determined there was no bias incurred opening Operation Crossfire, and it was sufficiently predicated. The warrants were sloppy, but they had been sloppy for others, it was not something peculiar to Trump, et al

Your characterizatoins of 'lying the their assess off' it viewing reality through a partisan lens, and I strongly suspect they do not square with the hard evidence, factoring all the layers and dynamics in play, you, like so many on the right, reduce a complexity to a simplistic black and white thing, there are no shades of grey in your assertions, not to mention the simple fact and there was no 'spying' on Trump world. Surveillance if predicated, even if the authorization was flawed, does not equal spying, which connotes sabotage, something one does to foreign governments, it's a loose term, and can easily be used by partisans to twist a narrative to forward an agenda.

So, excuse me for not swallowing your twisting facts to forward a right wing agenda narrative.

I'm not taking your word for it, post links to your sources that lead you to your conclusions, and I'll determine how accurate you are.

Just a cursory glance, above, you can see why I hold your opinion as suspect.

 

It is possible, though highly unlikely, that I missed it, but Trump and his lawyers and staff have never said that.

 

Well, they demanded cameras be turned off. The only reason for that would be, as you say, so they can "get the job done". I would think, in a high visibility case such as this, that absolute transparency would be paramount. Because, if it's not, then it is open to claims of 'evidence planting', true or not. I do hope all of the agents on scene there wore body cameras.

 

if you are accused of something, and you offer 5 different explanations, you're lying.

How gullible do you have to be to believe someone's 5th explanation of why they had classified documents?

 

trump is obviously a flight risk. holding his passport is necessary and proper (though probably not sufficient). his pilot should be cautioned about becoming "accessory after the fact"

 

evidence in "plain view" may be siezed.

 

the omly acceptable answer might be "the president asked for my help " in a matter of national security. bit i don't think buden is stupid enough to ask this idiot for help.

 

Wow….and x-files episode

 

Irony?

 

More like the vintage "Twilight zone"!

 

get back to me when biden becomes senile enough to forget the nuclear secrets out behind the swimming pool.

 

These passports were taken from the safe. Nothing in the warrant authorized their seizure being not part of official presidential business.

 

Bro, he doesn't even know he is President most of the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯