Assisted dying/Euthanasia

UNEXPECTEDLY! Canada Is Euthanizing Its Sick and Poor. Welcome to World of Government Health Care. “Roger, this is not my show. My piece of this was to talk to you, (to see) if you had an interest in assisted dying.”

When it's cheaper to kill them than care for them.​

'In a recently reported horror story from The Associated Press, Alan Nichols, 61, was successfully killed after a quick one month waiting period as he was suffering from hearing loss. Nichols was an otherwise decently healthy guy, but his brother claimed he was railroaded into killing himself.'

'Nichols’ family said that hospital staff helped him request euthanasia and pushed him to do it, a story that has been repeated many times by other disabled or sick Canadians.'

'Roger Foley, whose story was also reported by The Associated Press, became so unnerved by his hospital’s health care providers discussing euthanasia as an option that he started to record conversations. Foley has a degenerative brain disorder.'

'During one reported conversation, the hospital’s director of ethics tried to guilt Foley into thinking about the cost of his hospital stay. The director told Foley it would cost “north of $1,500 a day.”'

'When Foley asked what long-term treatments were, the director responded, “Roger, this is not my show. My piece of this was to talk to you, [to see] if you had an interest in assisted dying.”'

'Foley never discussed ending his own life prior to the encounter.'

'The fact that the ethics director mentioned how much it cost is essential to understanding why Canadian officials seem so hellbent on getting people to kill themselves.'

 

We've had the Oregon Death with Dignity Act for over 25 years. Yes, it is balanced, quite private and noncontroversial, at least here in Oregon.

 

We were the first state to do this, and it astonishes we got it so right without much to build on and that is primarily thanks to one Eli Stutsman. This is the attorney who we have to thank for translating the ideals of assisted dying into practical legislation which has been copied not only in other states but other countries.

"He was the lead author of the Oregon Death with Dignity Act in 1993 and served as the lead political and legal strategist during the 1994 campaign to pass the law and again during the 1997 campaign to defeat its repeal. Stutsman successfully defended the Death with Dignity law in the first federal court challenge spanning 1994 to 1997. See Lee v. State of Oregon,107 F.3d 1382 (9th Cir. 1997), cert. denied, 522 U.S. 927 (1997). He later prevailed against the United States Attorney General and the Drug Enforcement Administration in a second round of federal court litigation spanning 2001-2006, in which he won an injunction against the United States Attorney General on behalf of a physician and a pharmacist, both threatened with criminal sanctions. On January 17, 2006, the United States Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor of the physician, pharmacist, and the State of Oregon. See Oregon v. Ashcroft, 192 F.Supp.2d 1077 (D.Or. 2002), 368 F.3d 1118 (9th Cir. 2004), Gonzales v. Oregon, 126 S.Ct. 904 (2006).
. https://elistutsman.com/welcome-to-my-practice/attorney-profile/

I know that I would die a happy man, if I could say I contributed so much for a population so often ignored,- the terminally ill!

 

DP means death penalty.

I do agree the difference is vast, but that is not what most evangelical Christians see it. And evangelical Christians are some of the most die-hard anti-abortionists out there who use religious grounds. It is why states like South Carolina, Texas, Oklahoma, and others have highly restrictive abortion laws where there is no exception. So, I chose Dr. James Dobson, who is who wrote the article I cited. Although the Bible does not specifically mention abortion, fundamentalist Christians use the Bible that says "God loves all life" and therefore we should be against abortion because it is against God's will. But when it comes to the death penalty, they use Ephesians 1:21 and Ephesians 2:4-7 which state we, as Christians are to submit to authority and all authority comes from God. Evangelical Christians and fundamentalist Christians don't think in due process or anything carnate, legal, or of this world, but incarnate applied to the carnate world.

I think I was speaking about anti-abortion, which can include euthanasia, and the death penalty, not abortion and euthanasia. Euthanasia is used quite frequently with animals, namely dogs, cats, and other animals. With euthanasia, it can happen legally through a medical directive such as not being placed on life support for a devastating injury. or in some states physician-assisted suicide.

Again, I was speaking about abortion and the death penalty.

 

The medical directive does not normally involve any direct act to induce death, but rather the refusal to therapy to lengthen life or the end of therapy that had as its purpose the lengthening of life. There is a huge difference between 1. refusing to put that animal/ person on a life support system and allowing natural death 2. the decision to remove an animal/ person from life support and allowing natural death. 3. Providing an aid( drug) to enhance or choose the time of death. I don't see the options on that medical directive as having anything to do with euthanasia or assisted suicide. A lack of medical care, is not the same as inducing death.

 

Thanks for the factual history.

 

A refusal of therapy or life-saving drugs or devices in fact involves a direct approach to induce death. It is written in a legal way to not make it so obvious.

 

I have dealt with those directives enough to know exactly what they mean. While there can be blurred lines between perscribing a specific medication which can both relieve pain and suffering and also result in death such as high levels of morphine etc and it is particularly complicated with hospice and palliative care regimens, Medical ethicists and legislatures have long made a rather clear distinction between what those medical directives cover in terms of withdrawing medical care and support designed primarily to extend life , and perscribing drugs specifically designed to hasten death. That's why we needed physician assisted death laws in the first place. Medical directives which discussed interventions designed'pain relief' or comfort during the dying process and suffering were just not cutting it.

I have sat in meetings where RCMs and social services described exactly those distinctions to patients and families as they talk about what those medical directives and living wills were talking about.

 

The refusal comes from the patient or the patient's family member, not the medical personal. As it should be.

 

Canada’s Euthanasia Policies Under Scrutiny As Reports Surface Of Euthanizing A Man For “Hearing Loss”.

When euthanasia becomes the sixth leading cause of death in your country, perhaps it is time to rethink the real value of “free” healthcare.



"People are beginning to notice that the application of Canadian euthanasia laws are problematic, seemingly designed to cut the fiscal drain on the government-run medical system.'

'The country’s regulations devalue the lives of disabled people and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it.'

When government controls healthcare, the government's needs are met first.

"People have sought to be killed because they weren’t getting adequate government support to live.'

'Canada is set to expand euthanasia next year.'

'Canada’s euthanasia law appeared to violate the agency’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The law had a “discriminatory impact” on disabled people and was inconsistent with Canada’s obligations to uphold international human rights standards.'

'Canadians with fairly standard medical conditions associated with aging are being pushed toward euthanasia.'

'Alan Nichols had a history of depression and other medical issues, but none were life-threatening. When the 61-year-old Canadian was hospitalized in June 2019 over fears he might be suicidal, he asked his brother to “bust him out” as soon as possible.'

'Within a month, Nichols submitted a request to be euthanized and he was killed, despite concerns raised by his family and a nurse practitioner.'

Yes. Seek medical help for suicidal tendencies in Canada and they will hook you up, pronto.

"More than 10,000 Canadians were killed through state-sanctioned euthanasia last year, a 33% increase from the year before. Trudeau’s government is pushing death upon its citizens, especially the ones most in need of significant healthcare services.'

Cheaper to kill them than it is to treat them.

'Roger Foley, a patient suffering from a degenerative brain disorder in London, Ontario, was repeatedly told by hospital staff exactly how much his stay was costing taxpayers. They suggested euthanasia as a solution. The patient never brought it up, but the hospital “ethicist” tried to badger him to death with it.'

It's become a suicide grooming cult:
'A euthanasia advocacy group is pressing for access for “mature minors.”'

'Tim Stainton, of the University of British Columbia, described it as “probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s.”'

'“Assisted dying must not be seen as a cost-effective alternative to providing personal assistance and disability services for persons with disabilities, in particular those with high support needs”.'

Good luck with that.

'When euthanasia becomes the sixth leading cause of death in your country, perhaps it is time to rethink the real value of “free” healthcare.'

 

At this point we have an article on an admitted conservative blog site, with no references to what is giving them their information. We don't even have anything to take us back to health records or another story where the one family complained to the press. At this point all this is, is fearmongering.