Assisted dying/Euthanasia

I've heard the argument from those arguing against euthanasia that it may open up the door for vulnerable elderly people to be pushed into it, by the hospital and their families. You look what's happened in the U.K., there have already been a couple of horror stories.


Story about a case where the hospital and government practically euthanized a child, over the objections of his parents.
AGAIN! UK judge denies parents' right to take child to Italy for treatment
(go to page 2 in the thread to read the update to the story about the part where he was euthanized)

You can also read about a 24-year-old girl in Belgium named "Laura" who they allowed to be euthanized because she suffered from depression. There was nothing else medically wrong with her.
Right to die: Belgian doctors rule depressed 24-year-old woman has right to end her life | The Independent

Laura, who entered a psychiatric facility when she was 21, told the publication: "life, that’s not for me." "Death feels to me not as a choice. If I had a choice, I would choose a bearable life, but I have done everything and that was unsuccessful," she told the newspaper.​

 

I think if an 18 year old has been offered therapy, alternatives, and desires to end their life, that should be legal.

 

While he did not go into great detail, nothing in the OP indicated he was referring to depressed teenagers. Nobody friggen supports physician-assisted suicides for solely depressed people in general, much less teenagers that are depressed.

The entire concept of physician-assisted suicide is rooted in having a terminal illness.

 

I actually agree with you and have heard stories of bipolar people who killed themselves when everything is going well just because they didn't want to have to endure another bout when it wouldn't be such.

 

Post 77 and post 79 in rebuttal to your claim "Nobody".

 

Not a significant number, that is for sure.

This thread is about physician-assisted suicide. Depressed teenagers without a terminal illness are not legitimately a part of that conversation. Physicians would never assist in a suicide for a depressed teenager that does not have a terminal illness. In fact, that concept is so utterly preposterous it is shocking that this even needs to be said.

FWIW it is not clear that post 77 or 79 is referring to physician-assisted suicide as opposed to the legal right for an individual to kill themself. That is an entirely different conversation.

 

The original thread starting post

18 year old depressed are adults. Since legality is brought up, one would infer all physician-assisted.

 

The ACTUAL thread Title....
Assisted dying/Euthanasia

Once again....This thread is about physician-assisted suicide ( as evidenced by the title). Depressed teenagers without a terminal illness are not legitimately a part of that conversation. Physicians would never assist in a suicide for somoene whose only affliction is clinical depression regardless of their age. In fact, that concept is so utterly preposterous it is shocking that this even needs to be said.

I dont care whether they are adults. If they do not have a terminal illness then they are not part of the conversation about physician-assisted suicide.

 

Yes, yes, and YES!! My mother has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for years now. She is barely a shell of a human, certainly not a person anymore. But her body is still going. It is truly an unbearable burden on my father mentally and especially financially, as well as everyone else who knew her. There is no reason what so ever to keep someone alive in this state, especially if they already signed a DNR.

I’m a massive proponent. Keeping people alive when they no longer understand what life is or who they are, is a cruel joke. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to exist in this state and I don’t understand why anyone would, much less keep someone alive for years.

Anyone should be able to legally and safely/painlessly commit suicide in a hospital or approved medical center. In cases of Alzheimer’s, Cancer or any painful illness, you should be allowed to die. And those with mental illness, better for them to legally off themselves instead of taking a room full of people with them.

 

So you speak for @Pixie now ? Because I see quite a few who are ok with non terminal illness euthanasia.

 

Actually, it did. You need to look at the second parapraph. What I did was pretext what Christianity is and how broad it is. Those that use Christian religious beliefs are those of a subset of Christians, namely Evangelical, Apologetic Christians who claim the Bible is literally against abortion. They even use Bible verses to make their claim.

 

Yes. And assisted suicide should be legal.

 

I think the idea is that the therapy has been exhausted. If you live in chronic pain you've probably tried everything.

I would consider killing yourself via overdose is suicide as well.

 

We let people have DNR.

 

Why do you think it is still illegal when the general opinion seems to support it?
Ditto in the UK.
Though there if you are caught assisting suicide you are tried in court, told off and let go. Hardly à deterrent.

 

Oi.
I have not expressed an opinion on this...merely asked à question.

 

Everyone has an opinion especially those who ask questions.

 

I have not stated my opinion.
And do not assume you know it.
My object was merely to open à discussion about it.

 

Seems a little weird and obnoxious to ask a question then refuse to give your opinion on it? Why not offer your stance? That’s BS most politicians do when they’re asked a question.

WE NEED TO SOLVE SYSTEMIC RACISM !!!!

Ok fine. What would you like to do?

WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM!!!!

Ok. What is the solution?

WE NEED PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM SO WE CAN COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING!!!

Understand what? What’s the problem?

WE NEED SOLVE SYSTEMIC RACISM!!!

Ok. You’re a useless human being. Good day.

 

' ~ I believe this is a question best answered by experts — the Clinton family . '

 

His suicide was induced by those who benefited most from his death. Follow the bread crumbs Anyone who thought it was a suicide is a total moron. Hehe.

 

of course they should

 

Trump was President

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” - Donald Trump, 2002

 

exactly

 

agree, anyone with a terminal illness should be able to take any drug they want to help them through it