White House Requested USS John McCain Be ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump’s Japan Visit

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  1. ToughTalk

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    It's highly likely that Trump's personality, his ego his hating to lose and unpredictability is why Putin waited until you voted in a man who had 50 years of political history to predict his responses.

    So...ya. actually that's very likely the case.

    Now you may not like that logic but I've heard that argument more than once and you need to accept the reality that it's not a coincidence that Putin pick when he did to do another land grab.
     
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  2. Battle3

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    You can't use google?
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So as long as one can justify their fragile ego and pettiness, its okay? His disrespect for a war hero is far from acceptable. It is not a character trait I wish to emulate. I don't understand why his opposition works to be just like him. As far as the "Threat to democracy", that is a term fed to people to rebleat for the purpose of demonizing a politician. I will agree with you on trump, but don't pretend your party is the "good guys".
     
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    Agreed . . . up until the part where you fail to realize that, yes, Trump is a threat to democracy. He literally tried to overthrow our democracy. Literally.
     
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  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless, of course, one can define "Literally" and "Overthrow".

    That term was fed to people to rebleat for the purpose of demonizing a politician. Ironic that the party feeding that line works to transfer power from the individual to the government.

    What do you think about never allowing the government to have more power than you would want trump to have?
     
  6. yardmeat

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    I'm sorry you are still unwilling to read the Eastman memo . . . or even spend more than 5 minutes looking into Trump's actions.
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are not qualified to speak for me. Every aspect of the 2020 election has been sensationalized to the extreme. I never voted for the guy and will not be voting for him in the future.

    On the topic of eroding the power of the individual, as awful as he and his party is, dems are still worse.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    These aren't failures

    Inflation is due to the pandemic

    Stocks are a poor indicator of the economy, noting that jobs are strong and GDP is strong.

    Drugs have always come across the border.

    Covid is fading

    Putin's threat has nothing to do with Biden.

    Infrastructure rebuild is a decades long project.

    In short, you are just a glass-is-half-empty person.

    In short, you don't like Biden and your can't see straight.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He's an astounding success, given the pandemic he inherited which was made worse by Trump.

    Your opinion is of no consequence.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    the only appropriate response to a gaslighter, (someone who refuses to engage, which would be you) is to put them on ignore.

    You are dismissed.

    congratulations!
     
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    No... facts are facts... deal with it... Biden blackmailed a foreign country with US tax payer money.... and the president Obama was complicit with the blackmail...

    all on video... Biden once again doesn't know when to shut his mouth... Both Biden and Obama should be in jail..

     
  12. kriman

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    Biden started his presidency with a vaccine which Trump did not have. There has been nothing about Biden's presidency which could be considered a success and the polls reflect it.
     
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    On Biden's watch and made worse with his attempt to get away from hydro carbon fuels.
    The stock market is where many of us invest our money. Between inflation and the loss in the market, it is a disastrous
    There is no strong job market. Because people are refusing to work, there are more jobs available than people willing to work.

    The GDP is almost meaningless because of the deficit which just passed $31 Trillion. That is over $90 thousand dollars for every man, woman and child in America. The interest has reached the point that it can no longer be paid off.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, at least you are consistent in your blindness.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Fiat currency issues take about a year to flow through the bidding economy and affect inflation.

    It appears that you really do not understand this subject, so your conclusions will be faulty.
    Stock market is gambling. Like anyone who gambles, the wise only gamble what they can afford to lose.
    If you have lost which you can't afford to lose, the fault is yours.
    If there are more jobs available than workers, that's an indication of a strong job market.

    People need money to live, this idea that they are refusing to work is nonsense. Unemployment insurance is not enough to live on. So, when people need money, they seek work. without money, you can't live and there is so much people will allow relatives to mooch off of them. The stimulus packages
    got us through the tough periods in the pandemic, but they were hardly enough to live on for a long period of time.

    The reason there are jobs available is because we are too strict on immigration.
    The GDP reflects national output irrespective of the deficit and is a good indicator of the economy.. The deficit is not a debt. Deficits, debts, inflation are bipartisan and has been going on since the federal reserve was created. Yes, the system needs reform, but fat chance republicans are going to work with democrats to do something about it.

    You speak as if all these problems did not exist under republican presidents. But the graphs are all upward under all presidents. But, if you look at various economic indicators going back to FDR, America has done better, overall, under Democratic administrations. I have the hard statistics to prove it. But, of course, you will ignore them so why bother.
     
  16. kriman

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    How about knocking off your petty insults.
     
  17. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently you do not believe in capitalism.

    Where do you invest your savings?
     
  18. kriman

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    Look up "labor participation rate". When people are refusing to work, that is not a strong job market.
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I believe in capitalism. Some investments are wise, some not so much.

    Years ago, I bought a house. That was my investment.
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure it is, and perhaps those jobs would be filled if they paid more, but corporate greed brings it's own problems

    laborshortage.jpg
     
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    So. How many quarts of milk or loaves of bread does that house provide in a month?
    Then the labor market is not so hot? There are not enough high paying jobs.
     
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    They should make the CEO of Walmart give all his pay to the rest of the employees. I am sure that they would make use of that about $11 a year extra pay.

    It might surprise you to learn that the corporations do not pay those high salaries because of generosity. They pay them that much because they believe that the decisions they make generate more than that in income.

    So. If you want to make a lot of money, you need to get the education and the smarts to figure out how to make yourself worth a lot of money to the corporation.
     
  23. Patricio Da Silva

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    After I sell it, downsize, enough for the rest of my life.
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    Then complain to corporate world for not paying more. The execs are making out like bandits, I hear. Today, CEOS are getting about 300 to 1, compared to their lowest paid workers, whereas in the 50s, it was 50 to 1.
     
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  24. kriman

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    So. You have to move out of your house and down size in order to live. Has it occurred to you that the reason the house increases in value is because of inflation? That dollar you put into the house will buy you the same amount as the five dollars you get a few decades later.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, you're missing the point. Over the years, corporations have paid the upper set more, and the lower ranks haven't have been pretty much stagnant.
    Your statement doesn't account for the fact that CEO's made about 50 to 1, over lower run salaries, in the 1950s, now it's 300 to 1. Probably even more now.

    It's been a gradual screw the little guy so the people at the top can get even more. They pay as little on the bottom and as much on the top as they can get away with. It's just that, over the years, they have figured out that they can get away with it.
    Irrelevant to the point.
     
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