Electric cars and renewables are racist, says UN official

I did not say they should take an economic hit .. so no wonder you do not understand my position .. which is not a "Position" so much as it is a statement of fact and reality .. which you can not seem to come to grips with.

What part of Industrialization caused the CO2 emmision increase over the last 25 years are you haveing trouble understanding ? I am just telling you the problem .. how to fix it is a different question .. but if you can't get past the first step "understanding what the problem is" .. it is pointless to go further.

 

I make no comment on success being race linked .. in any kind of Eugenic perspective.

Your second comment is nonsense .. not purchasing T-Shirts from China (suppressing their economic success) is not an act of war. You are hopelessly lost on this topic .. and show no desire or ability to learn.

 

You mean like what the USA is doing to Iran, Venezuela and Russia?

 

You said "I am suggesting that some (non industrialized) Nations should not industrialize "at the moment" "IF" we wish to slow the rate of increase of CO2 emissions and Ocean Pollution"

That's not just a statement of the problem.

What did I not understand about that?

 

Yes. We can't actually start shooting weapons at Russia, but we do use economic measures and arm Ukraine so they can do the shooting.

We had a chance to promote something better than economic war with Iran, and we simply dropped the ball when they didn't fully cooperate.

I don't know Venezuela as well.

 

You still are currently not denying that there is a racial disparity.

 

There are white people in various places that were not part of the industrial explosion.

And, the reason for that explosion in industry didn't have to do with race.

 

That it was a statement of fact in the form of an If/Then statement .. If you wish A .. then do B.

If you wish to contest the math .. go ahead .. but this has nothing to do with me holding any reigns .. forcing some nation to do something .. it has nothing to do with me or my wishes at all ..

What you didn't understand was that industrialization is what caused the increase from 22 Billion tons/year to 36 Billion tons CO2 pear year over the last 25 years .. and that doing the same thing for the next 25 will have the same result.

IF you don't want the same result Then stop doing what is causing what you don't want to happen .. to happen

That is a statement of the problem . .. and the solution. A is leading to B .. stop doing A if you don't want B.

What about the logic did you not understand or wish to contest ?

 

So what. Predominantly this is how it is. I said so before, read post 212.

 

You appear quite confused.

 

I'm not sure if racist is the right term because I don't think it's purposefully keeping black people down but much of the raw material used in electric car batteries is mined in the Congo by indentured servants of the Chinese.

These are black people and China is notoriously racist toward black people but it seems like this is mostly about finance.

It's the people of Congo enslaving other people of Congo particularly children to dig out the Cobalt for people's luxury cars.

When could say this about any product you purchase shoes or shirts or glasses cell phones and laptops

 

Good points.

 

No, you are. The point is that leftists will drag racism into any discussion... anywhere... anytime. Its an obsession.

 

Maybe he doesnt buy into the CRT equation that "racial disparity" = racism.

 

Just not in any way you can demonstrate.

 

Id say the article that is the subject of this thread is a beautiful demonstration that leftists will drag racism into any discussion... anywhere... anytime.

 

Tell that to General Electric =https://www.flickr.com/photos/vieilles_annonces/4778888450/in/album-72157624036175005/

 

I'm sure you recognize that this topic is not about 100 people.

 

It would be better to address the specific points she makes.

Let's remember that climate change was brought to billions in underdeveloped countries by western industrialization.

Now, we want to fight those affects with policy that includes regulation of land use and energy that again falls most harshly on those same countries.

 

Well the one and only point made in the one sentence post I quoted and responded to was "Just not in any way you can demonstrate." and I think I addressed that point more than sufficiently.

Not sure what that has to do with the left dragging racism into anything and everything. And Industrialization in the north, south, east and west brought climate change to underdeveloped nations. AND STILL
"Electric cars and renewables are racist,"
is a beautiful demonstration of what the other poster claims cannot be demonstrated.

 

Well her main concern is reparations for slavery and colonialism for "racially and ethnically marginalized groups and Indigenous peoples." And Im not real clear if she is also asking for some kind of climate reparations as well for the same groups, or if she wants us to just stop extracting minerals needed for green tech from nations with
ethnically marginalized groups and Indigenous peoples present.
And whatever her solution is she seemed convinced it cant be done in a "global capitalist framework". Its basic neo marxist critical environmental theory using the same logic of critical race theory. If lithium mining has a disproportionate negative impact on people of color, lithium mining is by definition racism that has to be countered with antiracist policies like reparations.

 

Its primarily indigenous Chinese multinationals exploiting Africa for green tech minerals. Trying to In Afghanistan as well. Does that make it ok under CRT theory since its not the whiteys doing it?

 

This is a world issue, not just some partisan issue within the US.

And, the comments by the individual at the UN were certainly not limited to EVs.

 

She did mention that, but I don't see evidence that it is the main thrust of her direction.

 

She was talking at the UN, as I understand it.

The UN can have influence on this problem.