The dangers of Oil

No. I have no interest or need to determine the validity of climate change. That was done over 20 years ago when it became settled science after the scientific consensus was established. In short: old news and not the topic of this thread. This thread is about how the money from oil is used by nations that harbor terrorism and that could potentially pose a military risk to us. I'm just wondering if the anti-science propaganda is so far reaching that the right doesn't even care about that anymmore.

 

Smog?

This was a forest fire.

https://www.latimes.com/california/...-fire-smoke-unhealthy-air-quality-los-angeles

 

No, nobody in FL needs your money. All the money comes from the tourists. No nescessarily directly, but most all of it comes from the tourists.

 

You're just here to preach from a pedestal and call those that disagree names.

Is there any interest at all to debate? Because if not, ill just put you on ignore. Preaching from your ivory tower and talking down to anybody that disagrees is likely why you're on a internet forum to present your opinions in the first place.

 

Here is where the rare earth mineral mines around the globe are located in order to produce lithium battery technology required for most alternative energy sources:

Rare earth mining locations

• Mountain Pass, Calif. (U.S.)
• Araxá (Brazil)
• Lovozero (Russia)
• Khibiny (Russia)
• Bayan Obo (China)
• Weishan (China)
• Maoniuping (China)

Do you happen to see any adversaries on that list?

 

I never said we should consume all the oil we produce. In fact I think we should aim to produce more of all fossil fuels than we need to consume, and save the rest for a rainy day. But certainly we shouldn't be restricting our own production while buying it from foreign dictators.

 

yes, true, never said otherwise.... we should improve all types of technology and have redundancy via diversity of power sources

 

You do the calculation and prove me wrong. I bet you can't and won't.

 

Science gives us a pretty comfy pedestal, I can tell you that.

I don't give a rat's ass what you do. Not like you're one of the posters who posts much of any value.

 

Boy you sure do make a lot of assumptions in your post. Please show where I have ever supported SA actions? Or Iran's? While you're at it please point out where I have ever supported being dependent on ANY foreign country's oil.

But hey, since you have such a problem with oil why don't you cut it out of your life entirely? Of course, that will mean that you will have to give up your computer (I have no problem with that...), your TV, your phone (also would have no problem with...), you'll have to refuse medical treatment based on any modern science, more than likely you'll even have to give up your house since it no doubt has products in it made from oil. And soooooo many more things. Oil makes up at least 90% of your life. And I'm being generous there. The number is likely higher.

Of course, you won't give up anything modern. You'll make some sort of excuse as to why you "need" all the products you use daily. Which makes anything you say hypocritical at best.

 

What I don't see is a point.

Unless you are thinking binary... and believe that the only two possible alternatives are either oil or lithium batteries. I keep forgetting about right wingers' insistence on binary thinking. Which is especially terrible when combined with nearsightedness.

 

So you think that covering our need AND the need of the rest of the world is just a matter of "wishing" it. It's not. Even if it were possible, it wouldn't be for long.

 

You do realize that there are something like 165 countries in the world?

And oil is what's called a "fungible" commodity meaning quite simply that once it's out of the ground, it's indistinguishable from every other oil in the world.

So if the US starts trying to sanction countries that aren't stupid enough to ban oil use in their country, they'll be tilting at windmills.

Just like Russia seemed to slip right through all those international sanctions for the Ukraine war thoroughly embarrassing the west.

But you just go ahead, tilt away.

 

It seems pretty clear that as the Left gave up on economics [as Communism was shown to be a complete disaster] in the 60's/70's, it embraced environmentalism as the focus of its efforts.

Although attempting to convince the world that a new ice age was descending in the 70's/80's missed its mark, a new generation of fanatics were able to convince a whole lot of people that [thank God!] the end was still near [now with warming], placing the neo-Marxists is back into a position where they could change Capitalism using the impending climate catastrophe as their primary scare tactic.

This was perfect for the globalists, as well, as they could use this new apocalyptic narrative to ring in the new global order...authoritarian political and fascist economic control. COVID was a great dry run for both.

As far as understanding the history of the Earth vis a vis climate, I would think that a man of science like yourself would understand how important it is to get the best idea of where you departed in order to have a better grasp of where you might be now. This is why the most important time you spend with the patient is in having them give you a detailed medical history.

Imagine really believing that you could have an accurate understanding of the climate of an entire planet whose complexity is so vast that people look like absolute fools posturing as experts and saviors, while taking political control and stuffing as much cash as is possible into their pockets [and f****** everything up in the bargain].

George Carlin describes the folly better than anybody I've ever heard...



BTW, Scotty, you wanted on the deck!

 

There is a reason Texas sweet crude is the standard. We've got oil for a good 1000 years and the numbers have consistently gone up both because we keep finding more and because because we become more efficient at using it. Meanwhile the wacko environmentalist are dead set against mining the resources we need to make the green energy dream happen and have been hating on nuclear power for almost as long as it's been a possibility.

 

Ok

Could biofuels replace fossil fuels
could biofuels replace fossil fuels - Search (bing.com)

 

It's quite revealing what these so-called internet climate specialists don't know! I guess it boils down to their only as smart as the people that tell them what to KNOW

 

First off your forest fire climate change is a crock! Since the beginning of the 20th century, forest fires have been suppressed by Washington D.C. do gooder types. Any naturalist knows that lightening caused fires in centuries past as cleaned the forest floors without affecting the larger trees. There are always areas absent from trees where brush can grow. It is a balance but when fire burns, it does not burn so hot as to sterilize the soil. What we are seeing now is the results of liberals and Smokey Bear. Ask any Wildland Firefighter or rancher. Has nothing to do with climate change. If the earth is warming and the sea is rising, why are so many of your "climate change heroes" buying beachfront property??
I do not believe foreign nations should hold property in the U.S. Especially our adversaries. Biden would sell it in a heartbeat! And he has!

 

Do you realize how much petroleum it takes to run a farm?

 

Do you realize how much vegetation is waste product from just corn alone How much diesel you suppose algae farms need?

 

I'm not eating.algae. What you call waste product is natural soil builder. I do believe algae farms will require petroleum to build and maintain beds. Windfarms require quite a lot of petroleum product.

 

OK. whatever. Go to the links I provided and argue with them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I heard talking about farming algae thirty years ago and nothing much seems to have become of it.

I seem to recall a story about a monkey in a sealed tank where the monkey was trained to eat algae and the algae provided the monkey's oxygen as well. The experiment went on for quite a while. Only one problem- they forgot teach the monkey to crap in the algae.

 

Same goes with all this bullshit They have all these great idea's, but penny for penny your best buy is fossils!

 

It's just one scam after the next. This is why organisations need to be kept as small as possible. It is the main function of all groups to leverage the power of individuals into a force which can then over-power other individuals. This is why particularly governments and corporations need to be minimized and why the Left loves BIG everything.

It never fails to amaze me that an educated person cannot grasp the direct relationship between the size of government and abusive power. It would be nice if some brilliant person could mathematically figure out exactly where the tipping point is, i.e., when the size of government grows to the degree where it begins to serve the interests of itself or it's elite patrons rather than the citizenship in general.

Perhaps this would be a good project for the morons in the university system instead of being consumed with brainwashing young people into becoming as dys-functional and toxic as they have been for decades. And imagine having to subsidize these clowns with our taxes.