Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s a ridiculous law. It’s Stalinesque - name the man - I will find a crime. The Trump ruling is having negative business repercussions.


    Trump Will Challenge Judge Engoron’s Definition of Fraud, Lawyer Says
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/tr...orons-definition-of-fraud-lawyer-says-5590182
     
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    That law means that anytime a prosecutor wants to he can dig into any successful financial contractual transaction and find something reason to prosecute anyone he chooses. Little Joe Stalin would be proud of the New York Justice system.
     
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    I asked you if Trump broke the law, you said no.

    Now you're complaining that the law is unfair.... because Trump was convicted.

    Cult.

    Maybe we should redo the entire civil code to give Trump a pass on all the fraud he's committed in his life.

    The MAGAs would be so happy.
     
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    Leave poor Condor alone!

    But, Condor, at least read the Court's decision so you can understand it better.
     
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    He didn’t break any laws. The prosecutor manufactured a case out of the details of the transaction. The prosecutor could have done the same to DB if she wanted to. There was no complaint of fraud from DB or Trump. Any financial transaction in the state of New York can be used in the same way.
     
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    Just add at the end of the penal code: "The foregoing shall be construed so as to be inapplicable to Donald J. Trump."
     
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    What "transaction"?
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it doesn't. It's been around since 1956.
     
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    And the prosecutor who campaigned promising to Get Trump used this to manufacture a bogus fraud claim against Trump. She could do the same thing tomorrow to anyone who has done any form of contractual transaction in New York. That is why Governor Hochul is doing damage control.

    The saying ‘show me the man and I will find a crime’ is commonly attributed to the Stalinist-era Soviet jurist Andrey Vyshinsky or the Soviet secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria.

    This is what is going on in New York. Welcome to the Communist Party.
     
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    The loan transaction.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The case against Trump was instigated by Trump's own fraudulent business practices. As the perpetrator of fraudulent business practices, he has been found liable for his own behavior, due to evidence manufactured by Trump himself.
     
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    Lots of claims that were rejected by judges, many of whom were appointed by Republicans, even by Trump.
     
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    Curiously DB did not report any fraudulent business practices or fraud in the process of granting the loan. The “Get Trump” prosecutor went on a fishing expedition facilitated by this moronic law and manufactured a bogus argument which the “Get Trump” judge used to convict Trump of fraud where there was no fraud. Welcome to the days of Stalin and the Soviet Union.
     
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    There were no data to back up the claims. Forensic election audits of the six cities I mentioned would have served as canaries to indicate the need for further investigation but they were not done.
     
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    I have no idea why you keep repeating this, as the existence or lack of a complaint is not relevant to 63(12).

    Trump was found to have committed fraud because there was evidence that he committed fraud - of his own making.

    The fact that dishonest business owners in the state of New York will be held to account is a good thing.
     
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    He’s exonerated!
     
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    Because it’s true. And the kangaroo court which convicted Trump is a perfect example of the corruption not seen since the days of the Soviet Union.
     
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    No it's not. It was an actual court, with actual lawyers, and actual evidence, operating according to law and the Constitution with all due process.

    ... Something that people in the Soviet Union could only dream of.
     
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    How common is it for the state to go after a citizen, with no plaintiff, and no complaints?
     
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    Sure it is. Why is the Governor of NY apologizing for this travesty?
     
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    Really? List how, and offer facts to support each item.
     
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    It can be. But has nothing to do with Trump.
    The judge in his idiotic wisdom decided a 62,000 sq ft ocean front property on 17 acres was worth 18 million.
    When just a acre of land on that same road sells for 150 million
    So your idiotic judge declares Trumps property is worth 18 million, then declares Trump lied about the value?

    Kind of like your made up declarations on Disney that fizzled out.
     
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    The Soviets and Red Chinese do it all the time.
     
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    She hasn't. She went on a radio show and said most people were honest law abiding people with nothing to worry about.
     
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