Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Asked and answered.
     
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    You actually didn't answer the question. OVERRULED!
     
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  3. sec

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    As I have stated many times

    What has been done to Trump should never be done to any American. What is frightening are the Democrat voters who cheer it
     
  4. Condor060

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    And thank you for your deflection as this was never about the case.
    This was about YOUR lack of knowledge of it.

    Like this gem of a post
    Really says it all, doesn't it.
     
  5. TomFitz

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    Suggest away!

    They don’t exist.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven’t answered anything

    You just keep repeating “no fraud happened” and “DB doesn’t care”

    Neither of those are legal arguments and ignore everything you have been presented with.

    It’s bordering on trolling
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    It literally states mail fraud!
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you can answer since your magacompatriots cannot

    Is it fraud to lie on a loan application? Yes or no?
     
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    It’s the truth.
     
  10. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    The point is (to New Yorkers) illegals are coming in droves while they are leaving in droves.
    Meaning NY is losing its tax base
    Lets see how many of your favored illegals will be pay NY taxes.

    But all you are concerned about is numbers?
    Pretty telling
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Illegal immigrants still generally pay taxes. And there is no evidence, anywhere, that NY is losing tax revenue. That are probably one of the biggest tax producing states.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    So you are claiming Illegals have SS numbers and pay property and business taxes in NY?
    Too funny

    No evidence huh. I guess these are all non tax paying criminals running from NY?

    Over 545,000 New Yorkers left the state in 2022 —headed for Florida, Texas and farther
    https://nypost.com/2023/10/24/news/over-545000-new-yorkers-left-the-state-in-2022-census-bureau/

    New Yorkers Are Moving to Florida in Droves
    https://www.newsweek.com/new-yorkers-moving-florida-droves-1851708

    Nearly third of New Yorkers want to move out, fed up with crime, housing costs, poor schools and more
    https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/nearl...ime-housing-costs-poor-schools-and-more-poll/

    And I saved the best one for last.
    The official claims of the New York Mayor too dumb to face reality and too dumb to know any better at the same time

    NYC mayor blames, in part, rat infestation on why people are leaving the Big Apple
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nyc-mayor-blames-part-rat-infestation-why-people-leaving-big-apple
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes. They tend to have fake SS numbers. Hard to get a job without one. And, yes, that means they have pay withheld for it. And, yes, if they are paying rent they are indirectly paying property taxes and if they own property they are directly paying property taxes. They also tend to pay payroll taxes. They only pay business taxes if they own a business, so far as I can tell.


    Still struggling to come up with your evidence that NYC is now producing net negative tax revenue, I see. That state collects more in taxes: New York or Texas?
     
  14. Condor060

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    Right, that must be why NY is handing out thousands of pre paid debit cards to the thousands of tax paying illegals taking over buildings, that don't even pay rent.
    Can you point out for all of us, which ones are the tax paying, rent paying, property purchasing illegals that are replacing the actual New Yorkers leaving in droves?

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    Struggling to say on topic because you found out you were wrong?
    Do show me where I claimed NY is now producing a net negative tax revenue.

    I said NY is losing tax revenue because of the historical migration of tax payers out of NY.
    You couldn't argue with that so you made up a claim that I said NYC is now producing net negative tax revenue?

    Pretty desperate on your part Expected, but desperate.
     
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    Really?

    Since you keep insisting that this whole case revolved around one specific loan, tell us about it.
     
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    I heard teh same BS from the same sort of right wingers about New York fifty years ago.
     
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    I wouldn’t call others desperate when you have needed to drag this thread off topic twice now.

    NYC tax basis or immigration are not the topic

    trump fraud is
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you will have evidence of your claim aaaaany day now. The check is in the mail!
     
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    You mean like actual media claims from NY media news groups about the historical migration of New Yorkers leaving in droves?
    Or the actual Mayor of NY stating the very same thing?
    While you live in your bubble and can't find any evidence of anything?

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    Yeah, we have all seen it before.
     
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    Your claim was that they were going net negative. I have yet to see any evidence they are collecting less tax revenue than Texas. In fact, the numbers show they are collecting MORE tax revenue than Texas, despite having a lower population. Maybe get your info from real sources and not from memes of (albeit great) TV shows?
     
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    New York is a farce.

    A DA who arrest New Yorkers for defending themselves against criminals with weapons
    A leftist ideology which created the largest resignation of NYPD in history to the point they can't keep up
    Illegals attacking NYPD on the streets, then released hours later
    An influx of Illegals by the thousands roaming the streets due to their sanctuary city promises
    And now a judge and a DA who arrest and convict people, without a jury, on the bases of bank fraud, where no bank is claiming to be defrauded.

    Its very much on topic. But I can understand why you don't want all the information out there.
    It doesn't look so good for leftist ideology.
     
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    Show me.
    Bet you won't
    GUARANTEED
     
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    "The point is (to New Yorkers) illegals are coming in droves while they are leaving in droves.
    Meaning NY is losing its tax base
    Lets see how many of your favored illegals will be pay NY taxes.

    But all you are concerned about is numbers?
    Pretty telling" = Condor060
     
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    Perfect
    Now show me where I claimed claimed NY was experiencing a net negative tax base.
    Or did you want to go ahead and stop all the BS and just admit you were putting words in my mouth.
     
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    ahh the game. Carry on oh loyal Democrat voter who thinks this is right what has been to done to this American.

    Did any of the banks come forward and ask the AG to investigate? Nope, they went digging into records in hopes of finding something

    And you applaud that?

    That is shameful at best and I won't say the words as to how I feel about anyone who believes this is just.
     

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