Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does the title of the map say? The territory shown was a territory of the Ottoman Empire for 400 years prior to WWI. The British took control of the territory after WWI and held until the UN partitioned the territory in 1947.
     
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    Who can blame them? The guerrilla fish must swim amongst the people. But if there are no people...?
     
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    Liberated ! - Who in HELL got Liberated ? - European Zionists ?
    ........................................ It was certainly NOT the Palestinians was it ?
    ,,............................,, what a dirty perversion to suggest that Palestine was Liberated by the Mandate


    & NO - It was NOT !
    the UN that even granted the Mandate. It was the "League of Nations"
    ........................................................... so cut with the "Willful Ignorance"

    And according to the League's own Covenant, they did NOT have the right to allow
    ...... Colonial Powers to carve up territories at their whim, for political expediency

    And even the UN Charter admits to the Fact that it is Illegal to carve up a people's
    .. Lands to facilitate such expediencies, allowing those people NO input into such
    .................................................................................................................................. decisions.
    .
    The "League" which was controlled by Britain and France after WWI, granted
    the Mandate at Britain's insistence. - And Britain with the Balfour Declaration
    had already arranged with European Zionists, without any consent or consultation
    with the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine, to grant a homeland for European
    Jews in the Land of Palestine where the majority of the indigenous population
    ........................................................................................................................... was Arab.

    That such filthy machinations are seen by anybody with an intact Moral Compass
    as being on its surface, both indisputably, patently Illegal and morally & ethically
    ....... corrupt. -- And the result of these Illegal and - morally & ethically corrupt,
    ... .................. decisions being made, we have are left with the intractable problems
    ............................................and extreme Hatreds that we NOW have to deal with.

    And it seems that the Zionist side of this extremist divide has decided to attempt
    ................................. to deal with these problems by engaging in GENODCIDE
    ........................... The expulsion & overt in YOUR face, murder of men, women & children
     
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    Eadora in response to post 4071, it is clear your take of history is selective and quite false.

    You stated:

    In fact the actually history is far different and no matter how many times you and others come on to try re-write it falsely won't change it.

    To start with we must go back to N
    ovember 2, 1917. Arab leaders had met with themselves and Jewish leaders had met with themselves, then with each other. On the above date the Balfour Declaration, referred to “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.”

    The British and French would then deliberately violate it in the Sykes-Picot Agreement (a secret convention between Britain and France) and in the Ḥusayn-McMahon correspondence (an exchange of letters between the British high commissioner in Egypt, Sir Henry McMahon, and Ḥusayn ibn ʿAlī, then emir of Mecca).

    The Balfour Declaration, the declaration specifically
    stated that “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.”

    That reference DID NOT NOR DID IT EVER state or refer to political or national rights of non Jewish communities and did not even refer to them by name, i.e., Muslim, Christian, Arab.

    Britain originally came up with that agreement to rally Jewish opinion and support, especially in the
    United States, to the side of the Allied powers against the Central Powers during World War I (1914–18). The other intent was so that a pro-British Jewish population might help to protect the approaches to the Suez Canal in neighbouring Egypt and thus ensure a vital communication route to British colonial possessions in India.

    After World War One, Britain owed numerous Arab tribes pay-back for helping defeat the Ottoman Empire in the Middle East. It was awarded a mandate by the League of Natiions to create ONLY a Jewish state in where all of Israel and Jordan is including the West Bank. The rest of the area where you find Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, etc., could have become a Sunni Muslim caliphate. In fact Faisal leader of the many Arab tribes and Weitzman agreed to this.

    If that agreement had transpired, Israel would probably have needed no armed forces and would have become a Switzerland of the Middle East and Muslims would have been able to travel through it. Most of the land in what is now Israel, Jordan and the West Bank was unowned.

    The British were awarded the mandate to create this Jewish state. They then violated it and entered into an agreement with France to create French colonies in Lebanon and Syria and British colonies in Iraq, Iran, Jordan, and later what is now Yemen, Oman, UAE. France created colonies in Algeria, Morrocco, Tunisia as well. Chad and Niger also became French colonies. Sudan. Egypt and Libya were to be British affiliated. So in fact t
    he original Arab League of Nations of all these mentioned Arab countries were French and British colonies and then immediately after WW2, thousands of Nazis fled to these countries and in fact ran the governments and military of Egypt, Syria and Iraq.

    So let us be clear, for Eodora to say "due to the massive support given to the Zionists by the Colonial Powers" is an out and out falsehood and the memoirs of Winston Churchill show what a damnable lie that is.

    In fact what Churchill explained and what is now public domain is Britain and France lied. Britain had no intention of allowing an Israeli Jewish state and decided to lie. In fact Churchill told Faisal as pay back for WW1 and fighting the Turks (Ottoman Empire) Britain would create a Jewish free Palestinian state in Jordan in 1923 and would never allow a Jewish state and to enable that created laws that flooded where Israel,Jordan and the West Bank was, with non Palestinian Muslims.

    In fact the night before Weitzman and Faisal were to sign their mutual cooperation agreement the French lied to Faisal and told them Weitzman had told the French Israel was planning as soon as they got their state to break the agreement. Faisal in a fit ripped up the agreement.

    The very next day, France arrested Faisal in Damascus and Britain illegally and unilaterally created what is still referred to as the Palestinian state of Jordan on its coat of arms. Jordan always was a Palestinian state and any NON Jew living in what is now Israel and the West Bank and Jordan were given automatic citizenship. Eodora skips this. He skips that Jordan was carved out of 90% of the land that was supposed to be a Jewish state.
    He then deliberately ignores that from the creation of Jordan to 1967, any Palestinian who was Muslim automatically was granted Palestinian Jordanian citizenship.

    In fact the day before World War Two broke out the League of Nations called a meeting to dismantle Jordan as an illegally created Muslim Jewish free state.
    The war broke out and the League ceased. After World War Two with the exception of Eleanor Roosevelt the High Commissioner of Jewish Refugees for the UN the entire world turned its back on Jews (except France and the US).

    In 1948 the Jewish Zionist Federation then met with the UN and agreed to split in half the remaining land NOT illegally seized to create Jordan. So they agreed to about 4.5% of the remaining 10% of land promised them. In fact the Arab League controlled by France, Britain and ex Nazis stated under no circumstance would one inch of land go to a Jew for a country and so declared war against the Jews in Palestine to wipe them out and failed.

    The Arab League with full support and whose armies were led by British and French military officers and ex Nazi officers unilaterally attacked the Jews in where Israel is today with the express intent of killing them all off. So for Eodora to say they assisted in creating the Jewish state is a miserable lie and he has repeated it many times.


    The original Israel borders of 1949 to 1967 were the lines where the Arab armies fled.

    Syria, Iraq and Lebanon remain in declared state of war with Israel since 1949.
    Iran declared a holy war against Israel when its original Ayatollah took power from the Shah of Iran years ago.

    In 1949 Jordan occupied the West Bank and annexed it not Israel. In 1967, Yasir Arafat an Egyptian and t rained by the Mullah of Jerusalem the Nazi ally of Hitler who fled to Iraq post WW2 and during WW2 was the principle player in convincing Eichman and Himmler to use Zyclon B to more quickly kill Jews called for the extinction of all Jews up to his death.

    In 1967 Arafat tried to kill King Hussein of Jordan and rule Jordan. He was defeated and exiled to Tunisia. It was only after that failed Black Sabbath rising the anti Israeli Muslim nationalists calling for the extinction of Jews, started calling themselves "Palestinian" as a political national identity. Until then all their speeches ridiculed using the name that way.

    Since that time the position of any or all Palestinian leaders is that there can never be a Jewish state where Israel is and where Israel, the West Bank and Jordan is, should all be a Muslim caliphate.

    In fact from 1923 to 2023, hundreds of thousands of Muslims not born in Palestine have moved there and taken land from other Palestinian Muslims illegally and the problem became so acute Arafat blew up the West Bank Registry office to cover up the reality that most land seized from Palestinians was from fellow Muslims who came there no different than Jews came to Israel from outside Israel.

    As for Gaza it was never part of any nation. It was created by Nasser of Egypt as an open air prison for those Muslims Nasser felt refused to war against Israel. He locked them up in a strip of land called the Gaza Strip not to be confused with Gaza City an Egyptian city.

    Palestinians are not victims. They were offered the choice of a second state in Gaza and the West Bank and refused this offer saying they could never except anything but a Muslim state where Jordan and Israel are and currently stick to that position/


    Any Palestinian calling for an end to terror and mutual side by side peaceful co-existence with Israel had to flee or be killed by Hamas.




    The Balfour Declaration was endorsed by the principal Allied powers and was included in the British mandate over Palestine, formally approved by the newly created League of Nations on July 24, 1922. In May 1939 the British government altered its policy in a White Paper recommending a limit of 75,000 further immigrants and an end to immigration by 1944, unless the resident Palestinian Arabs of the region consented to further immigration. Zionists condemned the new policy, accusing Britain of favouring the Arabs. This point was made moot by the outbreak of World War II (1939–45) and the founding of the State of Israel in 1948












    They failed, due to the massive support given to the Zionists by the Colonial Powers.
    They
    are now forced to live under a - brutal tyranny - conducted a supremist Apartheid ................................................................................................................................................... Regime

    A scofflaw Extremist Regime, that now seems ready to forgo its Apartheid Policies
    and now resort to out right GENOCIDE in order to solve its problems with the Other

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    It is repeated continuously on threads Israel is engaging in genocide. The number of people who die does not in itself automatically define it as genocide. If that was the case the US, Britain, and all WW2 allies, and any country that has engaged in any war that has killed civilians has engaged in it. No its not that simple and no there is no magic that makes it genocide.

    Next at no time since 1949 has Israel ever forced Palestinians out of Gaza or the West Bank and yet that accusation is repeated over and over.

    Its a stale script actually first created by Goebels for the Mullah of Jerusalem to broadcast back to Arabs to get them to fight the British in WW2. It was then updated by the ex Nazis who ran Arab League governments and then by the KGB who created the myth Israel is a European colony knowing full well in 1949 Russia attempted to turn Israel into a Soviet state ally but failed and then and only then switched to supporting the Arab League.
     
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    By the time of the Partition the League had ceased to exist and had been superseded by the UN.
     
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    That's correct .. and the Irish Delegation to the UN said "The Hague is too good for Bibi" - an evil war monger who has engaged in relentless persecution of the people of Palestine over decades .. carrying on the Zionist charter to "Cleanse the Land" from the River to the Sea " .. the Extermination program really ramping up after Oct 7 .. collective punishment of 10,000 babies .. exterminated for the crimes of some Hamas Rebels exercising their right to self defense against a foreign occupier ... and mass - too many to count - crimes against humanity.

    and you know what else Jack .. Genocide Joe should join Bibi on his journey to the Hague ..be punished for his multiple crimes against humanity... earning him his nick.
     
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    I take that rant as a sign that I'm on the right side of this one.
     
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    The UN Security Council just voted to pass a ceasefire resolution. Granted, it is non-binding, but the US Abstained, allowing it to pass. That is huge. it was 14 for, 0 against, with the US abstaining.

    Hopefully, this opens the door to bring this disgusting slaughter to an end. Also, caught on camera was a bomb dropped on a group of 4 youths that were simply walking down the street.

     
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    164 pages in and still no ethnic cleansing.
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    It has literally been ongoing for months. What, you want to skip to when it is complete? The world is trying to prevent that from happening, in case you have missed it.

    This might catch you up:

     
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    For a country that is being ethnically cleansed, it sure has a large population.

    Try being a Christian in Iran or a Jew in Libya.
     
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    I must have missed the 30,000+ Christians that were slaughtered in Iran...
     
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    Famous Palestinian actors and the many roles they play in the propaganda filming.To many people have been watching old Jim and Tammy Baker videos.
     
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    It is not completely cleansed .. Duh .. there were a few Jews left over that Adolfs extermination program did not get through as well. .. and being a Christian in Iran is way better than an Arab in Gaza.. what the heck are you talking about ?

    The extermination program is not complete .. the point of a cease fire is to get it to stop prior to further reduction in that large population the Zionists would love to cleanse.
     
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    ......... [​IMG]
    ......///// poisoning
    So this THING try's to make a case of this poor woman celebrating her moment on El Jazeera?
    .............. :icon_shithappens: .......................................................................... or some other donkey feeding cats
    .............................................................................................. How THIN - How Petty can YOU get ?


    Well - If YOU can take Joy in this POS#it's smiling smears - Then I suppose YOU
    can probably find the agonizing deaths of over thirty five thousand men, women
    ............................................................................................ and children just as entertaining

    But it might be wise to grow a spine and spend some time studying some
    ...../. of the FACTS that might NOT fit so nicely with YOUR Absurd narrative
    ..// This Absurd narrative that allows these Obscene Atrocities to continue


    WAKE UP !
    It is the Zionist extremist butchers who are the very source
    ............................//. of the Antisemitism that YOU HATE & FEAR

    ____________________________________________

    Here we have one such Filthy Liar caught in the act
    Israeli Spokesperson FIRED: Eylon Levy's Downfall

    ___________________________________________


    And NOW an uncomfortable UN Resolution is passed that DEMANDS a ceasefire !




    True, but neither the League nor the UN had the Legal, Moral or Ethical right to dispense
    to any Imperialist &/or Colonial Power the Right to carve up Territories as they see fit
     
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    The 'most moral army in the world" back at it. I don't know who gave them that title, but it definitely wasn't God:

     
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    Yes, they explicitly did.
     
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    Kind of odd seeing history repeat itself. Israel is making the same mistakes the US made after 9/11.
     
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    You’re right, allowing the enemy to continually resupply itself results in endless war. Hopefully israel figures out how to stamp out the remainder of Hamas so that supplies won’t matter.
     
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    I think we should have learned by now that it is not possible to stamp out terrorism with force alone. It isn't a matter of kill the leader and top generals and the threat is gone. Nor is it a matter of kill all Hamas fighters and the the threat is gone.

    Once Hamas is gone, what's stopping it's successor from forming? You need to win/placate the hearts and minds of the people and avoid radicalizing more into being future terrorists.

    The PR war is even more important than the military war when facing terrorism. Avoid dehumanizing Palestinians, minimize collateral damage, stop government officials from making statements of hatred against Palestinians calling them animals, stop settlers from moving in, screen but allow in aid swiftly, etc. Do what you can to help them, make overtures saying you support them and that Hamas is their enemy and not Israel, and fewer will be driven to support Hamas-next.

    Fail to do so, and you ensure the rise of Hamas-next and more dead innocent Palestinians and Israelis. It shocks me how brazen Nettenyahu's ministers are in their speech dehumanizing not just Hamas but Palestinian people generally.

    And no, it is not reasonable to blame a 6 year old for failing to topple Hamas.
     
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    You can't stamp out an idea .. .. "you can blow out a candle .. but you can't blow out a fire .. once the flame begins to catch .. the wind will blow it higher"

    Full marks for naming the tune and/or the artist :)
     
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    You are arguing out of ignorance and that is why you start with "probably was because ..." In reality the Arabs rejected peace where as Israel accepted the U.N. terms. Five Arab armies then invaded and lost. Ironically, the Arab Armies ordered Arab civilians to evacuate the war zone and THAT is what got most of the Arabs to leave Israel.

    You really need to learn basic history before you keep posting untrue nonsense about what happened.
     

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