Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

Yawn. Word games are the refuge of the exposed propagandist.

 

No one can control what you believe.

 

Patently untrue friend .. a belief which likely indicates that the believer is very much influenced by sophisticated mind control apparatus.

 

Are you speaking from experience Jack ?

 

You spew a false statement about Judaism. Nothing in the religion of Judaism states it is better than any other religion. That is a recycled false myth. In fact in Judaism it teaches the exact opposite. The fact you come on this web-site and repeat the above shows exactly how any topic on Israel reverts to people like you using the topic to make false statements about the Jewish religion that falsely accuse it of things it does not believe in and therefore smeer all Jews negatively.

Compounding your ignorance as to what the religion stands for you have never read nor would you comprehend that the actual definition of how Jews refer to what you call "imaginary friend". The concept you project in Judaism has never ever been defined as a "friend" let alone human being but is an abstract equation that approximates but does not define the concept of infinite energy movement that i s approximated to be all inter-connected. It is a concept that it is in fact a paradox closest described as a fractal equation but beyond definition.

Your absurd " imaginary friend "assumption projects your your simplistic projection of what YOU think God means.

You are a classic example of someone who uses a thread supposedly started to accuse all Israels of committing genocide of Palestinians and soon turns to individuals such as you attracted to the headline like a fly to excrement wanting to use it as a cover and pretense to disseminate false myths about Judaism.

Nothing in what you stated has anything to do with the IDF, on-going IDF operations in Gaza.

You have hijacked the thread to try insult Jews.

 

Point illustrated above.

 

What point is illustrated above ?? .. What is your point AFM .. or are you just talking to the sky cause jaw needed exercise ? You did not realize that there are ways to control peoples beliefs .. and as such - have likely been duped a time or two .. by the folks trying to control you.

After all .. the enemy you don't know .. is far more dangerous than the one you do - Do you not agree ? .. and what is your point .. now that you know .. that you have been fooled ?

 

Looks to me like you the one .. how did you put it " You spew false statement about Judaism" -- in desperate attempt to do the classic bait and switch .. demonize the or other for being anti-semite .. a Godwin's law 2 of a kind. in some desperate attempt to link the actions of a few Zionist nut jobs .. who happen to be Jews . to all Jews .. doing yourself what you are falsely accusing the other of doing.

Now that we have emerged from that nasty anti-semite rabbit hole fallacious demonization trope .. what does that have to do with the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine .. "From the River to the Sea" -- Like was Done to the Amalek .. by God's Chosen people .. in a mass xenophobic genocidal extermination .. cept not against Arabs .. was their brother and sister Canaanites.

The Brown Shirts and Warsaw Ghetto ain't got nothing on Bibi's open air concentration camp Gaza .. Displacement and/or extermination of the populous .. an action of collective punishment .. full on war crimes -- crimes against humanity.

The Irish Delegation at the UN said "The Hauge too good for Bibi" .. and I tend to agree.. but that doesn't mean you go out and tar all Jews with the Bibi Brush. Would you like to be tarred for all the atrocities of Genocide Joe over his reign of terror.. because you are of Irish descent ? or happen to be an American..

You know about the Amalek right ? .. that ain't no false statement then is it .. you the one false .. cause you don't know about the Amalek .. nor the Judaism . which really has nothing to do with this to begin with .. as this is based on the beliefs of extremist Zionists .. the movement founded by Atheists .. not Jews .. nor Judah .. despite your desperate desire to tar all Jews with the Zionist brush .. in another anti-semitic trope..

Tell us about the Amalek and the Zionist Charter ?

and that the founding Zionists did not believe in the imaginary friend at all .. but still held tight to the idea that the land Should be Cleansed .. "From River to Sea" .

 

Again instead of the usual insults and diatribes about all Jews and Judaism lets go back to the thread topic and I ask all accusers of Israel committing genocide:

1-Why do we see in this forum accusations that smeer all Jews not just alleged Israeli government officials of ordering genocide?

2-How do you justify your accusation of genocide legally when the definition of genocide is:

“acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.” ?

In regards to 2, your accusation comes from the assumption that any or all Palestinian civilians who die were deliberately targeted by the IDF to die-where is your evidence its deliberately ordered? The wording “intent to destroy” in law means you must show evidence of the intent and no it does not mean you can assume/infer it from the number of dead or any death having happened-that is not how it is proven-the assumption any death or number of deaths by itself establishes genocide is NOT a legal basis to prove genocide. Would you accusers just once instead of engaging in me-too accusations go read the case law on what will constitute evidence of genocide.

3-Next explain if in fact the IDF or any Israeli had been ordered on behalf of the state to intentionally commit genocide against Gaza Palestinians, why does it as it always has done in past incursions as well as the present place its soldiers in harm’s way protecting Gaza civilians and allowing humanitarian relief to arrive from Egypt or withdrawing many of its forces from Gaza? Why does it create safety zones and each and every day call a temporary ceasefire to allow trucks to get into these safety zones to deliver food? Why does it put its soldiers in the direct line of fire of Hamas to protect civilians and allow humanitarian relief to arrive from Egypt and elsewhere? Why has it if it is deliberately killing and starving Gaza civilians not just killed them all by now or prevented any or all food and supplies? Just one of you respond to the information I placed up as to what the IDF is doing to promote humanitarian assistance to Gaza civilians and prove it is not happening…you won’t because you can’t. You in fact for political reasons of being pro Hamas ignore what the IDF does deliberately.

8-I ask you accusers how is it in the accusations against Israel for genocide, you never reference Hamas in fact has an open doctrine that says it will kill any Jew worldwide as part of its religious doctrine to rid the world of Jews and not just Jews in Israel and most importantly it has stated it will continue to engage in more attacks against Israel citizens and will never stop?

9- How is it you accusers never refer or acknowledge the deaths of Gaza civilians by Hamas and how they now die because Hamas deliberately embedded itself in their midst after it murdered, mutilated, tortured, incinerated, raped and kidnapped any Jew it could and has openly stated its embedding itself with its civilians is a deliberate tactic to kill them as martyrs to gain world sympathy..why do you pose as if the IDF acts in a vacuum to commit genocide and not as unintended collateral damage as it tries to stop Hamas from its vow to continue killing Israelis? Why do you ignore it continues to hold Israelis hostage and if the IDF did nothing it abrogates its responsibility to save those hostages, protect its own civilians from future attacks AND prevent Hamas from continuing to use Palestinians as shields to die? Where is your moral concern the tactic to deliberately kill Palestinians is a deliberate policy of Hamas? Why do you ignore that and act as if that is not relevant to why these people die? How in one breath to you claim to care about their deaths but remain silent to Hamas deliberately holding them hostage to die as a terror tactic?

While you are at it explaining your selective criteria as to how you only call death genocide if the IDF is linked to it differentiated in law from what Russia is doing in Ukraine, China didin Tibet and now is doing with its Uyghurs or what Turkey, Iraq and Iran have done to Kurds, or what Sudan did to its former Southern citizens or the mass slaughters in Kampuchea (Cambodia), Mynammar (Burma), Rwanda, Burudi. Please explain your selective definition of how it only applies if its in regards to Israel and Israel never engages in self defence it simply initiates genocide for no reason.

Go on please explain how the UN refusea to acknowledge openly what Hamas has done even during so called International Woman’s Day.

10-Please while you are at it explain explain your own family history. Do you think its clean from relatives engaging in war let alone holy moral war? Do you demand they and you be held accountable for it? Please explain the pedestal of righteousness you sit on when you spit out your moral judgement. Do you even have clean hands yourself?

11-Explain please, how does history deal with the millions of civilians who died in World War Two from bombings? Did the US commit genocide against Japan? Did the allies commit genocide against Germans?

12-Which one of you accusera of Israel can explain the moral difference between any civilian who dies as a collateral death from deliberate targeted death? What is your legal evidence differentiating the two and before you start please understand in law to prove genocide you can not just infer from the amount of deaths or that there are any deaths they were deliberate deaths simply because those people were Palestinian and NOT because of their being collateral damage from where Hamas has forced them to be situate,.

This assumption that if any Gaza civilians dies, those deaths must be genocide (intentional) because of the amount of dead or the fact they died is not proof and never was. For it to be intentional, you would have to show Hamas had no hand in their deaths and Israel made no effort to prevent the deaths. You will have to argue how all the efforts of the IDF to date to avoid death of civilians which I presented-do not exist and are not relevant when considering intent.





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Yah yah. You come on the forum and argue that Israel has been excessive in its use of force but not once do you deny what it has done to try protect Gaza civilians and never once do you suggest what is reasonable force. In your argument you ignore anything Hamas did and demand Israel not respond because a Gaza civilian could die. In doing so you create a double standard where Hamas can engage in genocide of Israelis, but Israelis can not defend themselves from Hamas because to do so is and can only be called genocide of Palestinians.

Go on look who you attract. Your threads always break down into Jew baiting myths that have nothing to do with Israel. Do you ask why ever when you pose as being righteous and judgemental? Do you think accusing Israel of genocide and then having it switch to accusing all Jews of false beliefs a coincidence? You think we Jews were never accused of a blood libel and it only arose in this latest Gaza incident?

Are you here because you care about Palestinians or because its an opportunity to **** on Jews?

If you care about Palestinians why do you not argue Hamas must be removed and be replaced by a government interested in building a peaceful nation living side by side Israel in mutual respect?

Why is it because Israel is a Jewish state you feel its an excuse to attack the beliefs if all Jews and now use terms that equate us all with Nazis for having created a state to provide us safety not just from Nazis but Muslim and Christian states who did commit mass murder against us.


Your accusations of genocide are not new. They just get recycled over and over.

 

Faith based narratives are immune to factual information. Hamas has genocide as a goal in its charter. But the faith based narrative champions claim that Israel's defending itself against genocide is genocide. Those of unquestioning faith cannot see the illogic in their claims. It's weirdly breathtaking.

 

What big pile of strawman fallacy. not sure what morons you are referring to with this "faith based narrative" claiming Israel is defending itself against genocide .. but it is pure silly falsehood. Israel is 99.9% the offender in this conflict, not the defender .. Israel is the Occupier ..the Palestinians the Occupied .. the rebels that broke out of the Open air Concentration camp in a revenge attack on Israel have a right to self defense against this hostile occupier. What these rebels do not have the right to do is engage in indiscriminate killing of civilians as Israel does in its Ethnic Cleansing program in Palestine .. and current extermination program in Gaza .. these are war crimes -- crimes against humanity.

 

It isn’t genocide, because there are Palistinians in the West Bank (currently being harassed by Israelis), in Lebanon and in Jordan.

But it is ethnic cleaning.

And it has been going on since day 2 of this war.

Israel obviously intends to cleanse or drive Palistinians out of their land in Gaza, and occupy and settle that land for itself.

 

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."

 

This is what their updated 2017 covenant says:

"Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, antisemitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage."

So...I don't see how you can see that as somehow worse than the slaughter of 30,000+ civilians.

 

You are now claiming that before 2017 the goal of Hamas was genocide but miraculously after 2017 the goal of Hamas was not genocide? How can you destroy Israel without committing genocide of 8 million Jews?

Most of the inflated 30,000 are Hamas terrorists.

 

Your comments are b.s. Had Israel intended to "cleanse" or "drive" Palestinians out it would have done it already. To suggest since 1949 as you and others repeat that it is ethnic cleansing when no one has removed Palestinians is nonsensical. As well in one sentence of your accusation you say it IS ethnic cleansing but then two sentences later state Israel intends which necessarily means they have not yet.

As for your subjective belief it is "obvious" what Israel's intent is no you are not psychic. You can not speak to intentions without referring to any specific actions or policies that state Israel will move all Palestinians out.

Repeating the same subjective allegation without proof or evidence is idiotic. It has been repeated by anti Israelis since 1949 and yet not only have Palestinians not been forcefully removed from the West Bank or Gaza but Israel in fact left Gaza and as for the West Bank Israel has never made a claim for the entire West Bank.

What has been going on for over 15 years is Hamas using its citizens as shields and deliberately killing them to get people like you to parrot your false narrative.

What has been going on is that people like you ignore the charter of Hamas in fact is to forcefully kill or remove Jews from Israel and they continue to attack Israel for that precise reason. That you ignore because of your rank bias.

Next it is not genocide because the IDF has its soldiers engaging as best they can in protocol and procedures to avoid civilian deaths and bring aid in not because Palestinians exist.

Israel is accused of genocide to engage in holocaust inversion a tactic used since 1949 to defame any or all Jews who survived the holocaust. It is designed to insult all Jews not just Israelis equating Israelis to Nazis.

Your comment about genocide is idiotic. The fact that Jews survived the holocaust or Ukrainians survived forced mass starvation by Stalin, etc., does not mean these events were not genocide.

Your comments are sloppy and illogical.

 

You have a Muslim state with Jews in it.

I don't think it is a good idea, but it is NO better than having just Israel with Palestinians in it. A two state solution is the ONLY solution. Israel has treated Palestinians monstrously over the decades, making ethnic cleansing their goal. It cannot be permitted to continue.

 

A two state solution will never happen. Gaza after 2005 is proof.

 

Lol, it is definitely going to happen. What is happening now is proof of that.

 

What has happened in Gaza is proof that a two state solution is not possible. QED.

 

This is why a two state solution will never happen. Hezbollah in the West Bank is now at war with Israel even though Israel is providing security via the IDF in that region. The Hezbollah attacks coincided with the Oct 7 massacre.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vi...mMER_h#:~:text=Orna Weinberg can,6 status quo.

 

Sorry, but the Palestinians missed their opportunity for a state.

 

Yes. They had a nation state 77 years ago but due to genocidal based greed lost it all.

 

Russia and China veto US resolution calling for immediate cease-fire in Gaza
EDITH M. LEDERER
Updated Fri, March 22, 2024 at 10:07 AM CDT

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Russia and China on Friday vetoed a U.S.-sponsored U.N. resolution calling for “an immediate and sustained cease-fire” in the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza to protect civilians and enable humanitarian aid to be delivered to more than 2 million hungry Palestinians.

The vote in the 15-member Security Council was 11 members in favor and three against, including Algeria, the Arab representative on the council. There was one abstention, from Guyana.

Before the vote, Russian U.N. Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia said Moscow supports an immediate cease-fire, but he criticized diluted language that referred to moral imperatives, which he called philosophical wording that does not belong in a U.N. resolution.

... https://news.yahoo.com/un-vote-us-resolution-declaring-045435124.html

 

Lol, like your saying that means anything...