No, Trump is not Hitler

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, Trump isn't Hitler. Trump isn't going to engage in genocide. I AM NOT IMPLYING IT.

    But, they do have some rhetoric in common.

    Yeah, they do, now what do you Trump followers say about it?

    Explain this to me, please.

    These are Hitler quotes, AND Trump quotes:

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    FACTCHECKING This meme:

    https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...itler-viral-quote-comparison-accurate-1843501

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...p-hitler-comparisons-doubles-down-1234932630/

    COPILOT FACTCHECK::

    What I am NOT doing is comparing Hitler's atrocities and implying Trump will 'do as Hitler did', and please to not accuse me of this. Read this OP accurately.

    What I am NOT doing is claiming Trump plagiarized Hitler. I am not making the unverifiable claim that Trump had a Hitler speech on his nightstand at bedtime every night like some have claimed. I am NOT assuming that these quotes were stolen from Hitler, but they did come from Trump's heart, as Hitler's quotes came from his heart and the comparisons are a coincidence. And, in the department of RHETORIC, both have these quotes in common.

    ahh, now I anticipate Trump believes to bring up 'Godwin'.

    In an interview with Godwin, he said he never meant that his aphorism to be
    an excuse to condemn all Hitler comparisons, because he did understand that
    there will be occasions where the comparison will be valid, making sure that what is being compared is understood.

    The only comparative basis being made here is RHETORIC.

    So don't give me any crap about 'Godwin'.

    COPILOT factcheck:

    And maybe this rhetoric (and Trump immigration policies) are why the KKK and white supremacists like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers love the Donald? Ya think?

    And why doesn't this trouble you?

    Don't you think it should (if it doesn't) ?


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    Read my first sig.....
     
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    It does, but Biden is worse for different reasons.
     
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    I'm reasonably certain when Hitler came to power genocide was not part of the plan.

    This is the problem, a Wile E. Coyote has found, with rolling the boulder down the hill.
    You don't know when it will stop or what it will crush along the way.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I would think that those who tend to support and fund Iran and Hamas in their crusade against the Jews are far more "Hitler-like" than Trump ever was.
     
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    Right now the Israeli government are acting more "Hitler-like" than Trump ever was.
     
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    As a Fascist-Technocrat, I would love nothing more than "One people, one family, one nation". It sure as hell beats the insubordination of the West Wing reported in 2017 and marks the first time in US History that government workers actively sabotaged the US President and the US Government.

    Or to use some Bush terms: If you're not with us, you're against us.
     
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    Trump is not going to commit genocide against a whole "race". However, you know your really backing the wrong guy if that's the best you can say about them. While it's true that that is unlikely to be his plan, the speech does match.

    This is simply the type of rhetoric of racist dictators. Exactly what Trump wants to become. If his rhetoric doesn't convince you of this, look at who he admires: Putin, KJU, Erdogan, ...

    I don't know about you, but when I read about characters like these in history I always wondered WHO would support such people. If you ever wondered: "who would support creeps like Hitler, Mussolini, KJU, Pol Pot ...?" If you're a Trump supporter, to answer this question you only need to look in the mirror. If after knowing this you STILL support Trump, know that you are in the same group of people of the TYPE that has supported dictators throughout history.

    The OP does a great job of fact-checking himself. So now you know that this is not hyperbole.
     
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    When Trump says that, he also means "one leader". Whatever you "would love", with Trump you probably won't get it. Hitler didn't get it, and NO leader who has promised that has ever achieved it. They usually achieve the opposite. But you DO get "one leader".

    It's not difficult to learn from history unless you make an ACTIVE effort to ignore it.
     
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    That's the same in a democratically-elected government. If the only argument against a centralized government is that a centralized government fairs no better at promises, that's fine. The centralized government at least, can handle its own affairs and not be stretched by the 'democratic' affairs that render it as impotent as this one.
     
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    He's more of a Dorito Mussolini.

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    Erdogan's Turkey is a part of NATO, are we going to condemn that to be consistent? Or is it more double standards? Policy matters, not who we 'admire'
     
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    "Who would support creeps like Hitler?"

    Most of the German population came to support Hitler. Some factors that caused the support were the continued blockade of Germany in 1919 by Britain that caused widespread starvation and malnutrition, huge financial reparations demanded by France and Britain causing hyperinflation and chaos, military humiliation of demilitarization of the Rhineland, the threat of a communist takeover fomented by the USSR, and widespread public opinion that Jewish industrialists had lacked enthusiasm for WW I except for profiteering.
     
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    There is no doubt Trump studied how Hitler gained power to learn what to say to rile up the people he considers the 'base'.
     
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    People who are the targets of the wokesters.

    The nation is irrevocably divided. Democracy has already failed.
     
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    And the wokesters study Mao, Lenin and Stalin You all hope to foment revolution by demonizing Whites.
     
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    The only affairs that matter in a dictatorship are the DICTATOR'S affairs. If you think anything YOU want matters, you are sorely mistaken.

    Clearly you are not aware of what living under a dictatorship is. It's not a matter of failing to fulfill "promises". A dictatorship doesn't bother with promises because they are accountable to nobody. Promises are made to fool people into getting the dictator into power. After he is in power, they mean nothing.

    Trump will NEVER become a dictator. But that's his goal. And even the ATTEMPT to achieve that goal will have dire consequences. Consequences that are obviously beyond your experience. Those who have SEEN how a real dictatorship comes to power know what I mean.
     
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    So is the U.S. And WE had Trump for four years. And after all the crimes he has committed... and after trying to become a dictator, we STILL give him a chance to return to power. Even after trying to undermine NATO.

    Consistency would have required that we condemn ourselves for electing Trump.
     
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    And all the misery was set to return after WW II. So Hitler did not solve it. It didn't last long because the World Superpowers came to their rescue. Who will come to OUR rescue if Trump manages to grab power?
     
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    "WE" still give him a chance to return to power". Really? The democrats are using every dirty trick in the book to keep him from being elected.
    My favorite president was a democrat. Harry S Truman. "Give em hell Truman". He made some of the hardest decisions ever made by a president and he never tried to blame anything on anyone else.
    Then we have Biden and the democrats. They do not take responsibility for anything. It is either Trump's fault or the house's fault, but not their fault.
    In spite of the attempt to link Trump to Hitler, Trump is now ahead fair and square and the democrats are in panic mode.
     
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    According to the OP's standards we are all Hitler. Has Hitler ever said "i'm hungry, I'm gonna go get something to eat" and if YOU said the same thing then YOU = Hitler
    Liberal math formulas are amazing! Can ya'll recommend a good place to take a lib math course?
     
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    What folks do not understand here, is its not his ideology/ white nationalism that was the threat, its the tactics he has normalized, and which he has shone as effective. All the old rules governing political behavior, where politicians believed there was a cost to bare from voters, for 'playing dirty' are toast now. There is no sense that be caught bold face lying, braking campaign laws, bullying, creating false narratives gets punished by the voters at the ballot box. Its been getting rewarded and that means candidates with Trumpian tactics get rewarded. Eventually a better, smarter, strategic long term thinker with the same amoral compass will gain power, and that will be a Hitler! Trump wrote the fiscal and political playbook for a modern post social media fascist leaning candidate and showed them all that they could get away with **** never before anticipated.
     
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    The misery lasted from 1945 until 1948 when the Marshall Plan replaced the Morgenthau Plan (which was never fully implemented). The Soviets did West Germany a favor by instituting the Berlin Blockade and causing western policy to change.
     
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