Did Trump care if his hush money affairs would hurt Melania and Ivanka?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    From what I can tell, it doesn't look like it.

    In the video below, Rachel Maddow reads from the court transcript, between Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass and AMI exec David Pecker, this is just the part where Trump's real feelings about Ivanka and Melania are revealed. From the transcript, it appears that before he decided to run for President, he was concerned about what Melania and Ivanka thought--and I take it that it was what they thought 'of him' because Pecker said 'what the family might feel or say about it'--but when he decided to run, he never mentioned them at all and I think I can infer from what Pecker said that he didn't really care if he hurt them or not.

    I mean, how can he care, he fornicated with McDougal while his newly wed wife, Melania was pregnant, and did it again with Stormy Daniels, four months after she gave birth to Barron. (Imagine how that makes Barron feel?). I swear, nothing makes me have contempt for Trump more than this, and there is a lot of awful things he has done. What boggles my mind is why it doesn't bother Trump fans? Why doesn't it bother you guys on the right? Back in the days of William Buckley it would have ruined his chances. But, no more. Any horrible act is acceptable to this crowd.

    This, in my view, is incredibly damning insofar as the character of the man.

    Is this the kind of person you want for President of the United States?

    Yes, it's testimony from David Pecker, the head of AMI which owns the National Enquirer, who had a quid pro quo deal with Trump to 'catch and kill' negative stories about Trump, but it was also established that Pecker still liked Trump, despite this negative testimony, that his testimony wasn't meant to be personal. In my view, Pecker doesn't have the baggage that either Daniels or Cohen has, and his testimony corroborates Cohen's testimony and his testimony, his avuncular demeanor will be seen as more credible with the jury.

    This is consistent because if Trump really was worried about what Ivanka and Melania thought, why didn't he do the hush money way back many years prior when the affairs happened, round about the time Melania was pregnant with Barron? Why did he wait until a few weeks before the election to suddenly want McDougal and Daniels to be quiet? Nah, he didn't give a damn what they thought, he was only concerned about the affairs hurting his election chances.

    Not to mention NONE of Trump's family members, not Melania, not Ivanka, not Eric or DJTjr have appeared with him during his trial. This isn't going to go over well with the jury, methinks.

    What say you?

     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    does Trump care about anyone but himself?
     
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    Answer - NO!!
     
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    Is this the kind of person you want for President of the United States? Which most Americans answer no too. But you also have most Americans who don’t want Biden reelected either. I’d say this election is more about what people don’t want than want. Then that don’t wantedness will turn into a degree of unwantedness. You have approximately 37% of all Americans who want Trump back in the White House, another 37% who want Biden reelected with the final 26% who don’t want neither one as the next president. Which brings me back to the degree of that unwantedness. That final 26% will decide who will be the next president. Most will base their vote on who they want to lose the least, not win, but lose the least as they don’t want neither on to win.


    This election isn’t just about Trump, it’s about both Biden and Trump. Like Trump ignoring Melania and Ivanka, the democrats are ignoring that this election is about both major party candidates. The Democrats think it’s just about Trump. It isn’t. Sure in 2020, that election was much more about Trump than Biden. Trump was president in 2020. That isn’t the case in 2024 as Biden is now president, not Trump. The unanswered question in all of this, who will this 26% of all Americans decide who they disliked and don’t want the least? That an unanswerable question today.
     
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    I didn't care when Bill Clinton did Monica Lewinsky and I don't care that Trump banged a porn star. That this concerns you more than the other things he has done tells me you have your priorities wrong for when voting for a President.
     
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    :below: What he said.

    I find it funny that so many excused what Clinton did, had no problem with it and claimed that what happens in the bedroom is none of our business... yet with Trump its "How can you vote for this guy!" for the same type of thing. And yes, Repubs were on the opposite side with Clinton. Even if you ignore everything else about Trump, he has definitely shown that hypocrisy of both sides of the political spectrum.
     
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    Nope. Maybe they aren't all that 'hurt" as they are used to his shenanigans. Or he has "explained " it away to them. But CAE?? no way .He does not care who he hurts if it benefits him or avenges him. It also does not bother him as he has no conscience. (part of his sociopathy)
     
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    I don't care who Trump has sex with. I'm concerned with his policies. Thats what can effect me.

    What are your views on Clinton and JFK? Did their family values (or lack thereof) make them unfit for office?

    How Many Women Did JFK Bed? A Detailed List of the President’s Affairs | History Hit

    I still think JFK was our best modern POTUS. I wouldn't bless him to marry my daughter... but that doesnt have anything to do with his competency as POTUS.
     
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    Melania surely knew what kind of person she was marrying.

    Ivanka was no doubt fully informed about sex among the rich and famous by her four-times married mother, Ivana.
     
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    Speaking for myself and others with whom I've spoken, we could care less about marital infidelity when it comes to POTUS. What we DO care about is elaborate schemes to conceal information about that infidelity for election purposes.
     
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    Reaching again I see.
    If he didn't care enough to be faithful then why the hell would he care about the hush money?
    What is the point of this again? TRUMP BAD?
    Breaking news story? Billionaire playboy is unfaithful? Whats the angle here?
    ME CONFUSED
     
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    Did it ever occur to you that Trump never slept with any of these people but paid hush money because it was cheaper than the alternative? Happens all the time.

    By the way, Trump leads in every single swing state but one.
     
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    Which by the way is perfectly legal whether anyone likes it or not. Congress is full of them both Democrat and Republican.
     
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    I don't want to disillusion but this has nothing to do with whether or not Trumped banged a porn star. Nor do any of the other cases have anything to do with the items ostensibly mention within them, legal fictions though they be, it is about the fact that Trump is not on board with the lefts slow attempt to strangle all human rights for the common man and the slow destruction of the US as the world's last bastion of human freedom. Note if Desantis had won the Republican nomination and was leading in the polls he would be facing the same sort of lawfare assault as trump. Different charges and they likely and also most likely a higher percentage of it would civil but it would none the less be happening, The want's a one world government and will stop at nothing to get it and that will, of a certainty, entail a drastic reduction in human freedom.
     
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    You genuinely believe that Donald Trump is about human rights and freedom? What led you to that thought?

    As far as the government controlling the masses and violating human rights and freedoms, I personally see no difference between Trump, Biden, or the Democrat Party and Republican party.

    The only way I see around your above stated concern would be to break the two party system.
     
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    Then you should be pissed that your tax dollars has been used exactly for that for Congress. Are you? Also with your answer here it would indicate that you were pissed at Clinton for trying to cover up the BJ he had in the Oval Office and deserved to be impeached for that coverup?
     
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    This was evidenced already btw. When he was thought to be the most likely to be the nominee if Trump was somehow taken out lefties were already trying to get him with lawfare. As evidenced when he bused illegals and that Texas Sheriff started "investigating him"...yet no one suggested or started such an investigation with Abbot because everyone knew he wasn't running for POTUS. Notice that since DeSantis dropped out of the race no one has said anything about how that "investigation" was going or anything of the like...
     
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    Did Trump care if his hush money affairs would hurt Melania and Ivanka?

    I'm sure the thought never entered his mind.
     
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    Where was Jill Biden while Bribed Joe was showering naked with their daughter?
     
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    I think Biden really has gotten a bad rap, due to the incessant smear campaign from Republicans, smear which is really disingenuous and partisan.

    If you want to assert the left has done the same against Trump, well, this post is about character and Biden's character is decent. Yeah, I've seen Comer's 'evidence', well it doesn't actually prove what they are claiming, they just want to make you think it does, but in fact, it doesn't.
     
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    It's not about the affair, it's about doing it right after your newly wed wife is pregnant, and doing it again with another woman right after she gives birth.

    THAT is the point

    Men have affairs, that's NOT the point.

    Do you understand?
     
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    It's not about the affair, it's about doing it right after your newly wed wife is pregnant, and doing it again with another woman right after she gives birth.

    THAT is the point

    Men have affairs, that's NOT the point.

    Do you understand?
     
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    It's not about the affair, it's about doing it right after your newly wed wife is pregnant, and doing it again with another woman right after she gives birth.

    THAT is the point

    Men have affairs, that's NOT the point.

    Do you understand?

    JFK wasn't in office long enough to know. But, the Bay of Pigs fiasco was a bad call. JFK did a good job handling Kruschev on the Cuban Missile crisis.
     
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    That's good, but.....

    It's not about the affair, it's about doing it right after your newly wed wife is pregnant, and doing it again with another woman right after she gives birth.

    THAT is the point

    Men have affairs, that's NOT the point.
     
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    No difference? That defies the facts.

    Dems want rich to pay the taxes.

    Repubs want everyone to be taxed the same

    Dems want everyone to have affordable health care

    Repubs want only the free market to control health care which results in millions not being able to afford it, but Repubs don't care.

    Dems want women to be able to control their reproductive rights.

    Repubs do not want women to be able to control their reproductive rights.

    Dems want a sensible humane border policy that addresses the labor needs of America,.

    Repubs just want cruel and inhumane border policies that result in the permanent separation of children from their parents, and they want close the border because of xenophobia but when a sensible border policy was offered, they rejected it.

    You really believe they are the same, you don't understand these differences?

    The founders gave us a bicameral legislature, which naturally shaped the two party system, there is no way to undo it unless we amend the constitution to a parliamentary system which is more conducive to coalition governance. I don't think a parliamentary system is appropriate for a country the size of America.

    There are many political parties, but they never gain a foothold because the Public really doesn't want it . They are content with the two party system, despite all their bellyaching to the contrary.
     
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