Could Benjamin Netanyahu Go To Jail? | If You’re Listening

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Are you blind or do you not understand what links are?
     
  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you reluctant to tell everyone when and where this alleged use of a child as a human shield occurred?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is using children as Human Sheilds AFM .. and why are you asking .. in a thread about Israel/Palestine .. where both sides - according to your own ridiculous definition .. are awash in child human shields .. Human shields in every household that has children.

    Sup AFM :) What this use of children as human shield is being alleged now friend .. and what does this have to do with Bibi being late for a date with the Hague.. Genocide Joe should probably follow don't you think ! .. for complicity and support for the use of Human Shields ..
     
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  4. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I don't claim the vids from Israel are staged.

    Some might be, I don't know.
     
  5. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    The Israeli occupation of Gaza was strongly rejected.

    By evacuating without comment, Gaza simply believed they had won.

    There should have been a negotiation that made clear what the deal was.
    "Long ago" because maybe Gaza wouldn't have been able to defend itself?

    The siege of Gaza IS a war that has cost many lives and has denied the people of Gaza a future of any kind. It destroyed their economy. It left them living on aid. Etc., etc.

    Today, all that is allowed to be mentioned is the number who lost their lives in one terrorist attack during that war.

    The destruction of Gaza is a crime, but that can be fixed. The tens of thousands of those slaughtered by the IDF, without them even counting the dead, can not be fixed.
    There is no struggle there. It IS a war that has lasted for 20 years. There is shooting, bombing and rockets - mostly from Israel, as they are FAR better armed.

    Neither side knew what they were shooting at, other than that the IDF bombed apartment buildings and civil infrastructure and Gaza shot rockets that can't be aimed.
    I don't know what Israel thought they were doing in the past. They refused to negotiate.

    Maybe they thought if they just bombed more apartment buildings and civil infrastructure then Gaza would just sit there in total hopelessness, resigned to being captives of the Israeli siege. If so, they should have known that NO PEOPLE ON EARTH would consent to that.
    The bulldozing of greenhouses as the IDF left Gaza, where famine reigns is more proof of abject absence of all moral values.

    Do you need to see a vid of that happening?
     
  6. AFM

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    The above is completely at odds with the historical record as has been proven to you multiple times. Why do you keep repeating this?

    Israel left Gaza with the complete infrastructure including a functional international airport that they had created. Hamas violently took over, destroyed all this, and attacked Israel. Everyone of your comments has been disproven. Your faith based narrative is immune to factual information.
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    The PA that existed was seriously corrupt, making Hamas a reasonable decision for Palestinians in that election.

    Going 20 years back in history to find an excuse for slaughtering civilians is just not good enough.

    The average age in Gaza is substantially LESS then 20 years. Blaming people of today for voting in Hamas is just flat out PATHETIC.

    The issue is one of TODAY. It's Gaza, which has lived under the crushing siege of Israel for 20 years.

    Israel has consistently PROVEN that negotiation is something Palestine can not attain, as Israel and the USA will not allow it.
     
  8. AFM

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    The past 20 years has proven that there is no possibility of a two state solution.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    Palestine is certainly NOT going to hand over their property to Israel because of Israel's continuing war.

    Would you?

    Israel's problem is that they've tried to steal Gaza and West Bank. But, they lost.

    And, every Palestinian knows what it has cost. They aren't going to surrender their country now that they've won.

    The Zionist experiment is over. All that is left is the continuing slaughter of civilians that Israel will have to end at some point.
     
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    Israel has not stolen anything. Israel is slaughtering no one. Gazan civilians want Israel to eradicate Hamas. The only hope for Gazan civilians is through security provided by the IDF.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous.

    The IDF has absolutely NO interest in providing "security".

    They are slaughtering men, women and children. They are destroying the civil infrastructure that a population depends on.`

    They work for Netanyahu, who wants Gaza cleared for Israeli colonization - just like in West Bank.
     
  12. AFM

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    They have a vested interest in providing security as they did in Gaza from 1967 to 2005. And they are currently providing security in the West Bank which is why Hezbollah has not take control of the West Bank as Hamas has done in Gaza with disastrous results for the Gazan civilians. Hamas is responsible for the destruction and death in Gaza. It's in the Hamas charter. The majority of casualties in Gaza are Hamas terrorists, Hamas direct supporters, willing or unwilling human shields, casualties resulting from the defective Iranian rockets (~ 20 %) which land in Gaza, and casualties inflicted directly on Gazan civilians (who are labeled Israeli collaborators) who attempt to distribute food from international aid.

    I have posted Netanyahu's plan "The Day after Hamas". What does that say?

    We have been through this all before. Proof of all my statements has been provided multiple times.
     
  13. fmw

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    No reason for Netanyahu to worry about a few charges. Trump is facing scores of them and he grows in popularity partly because of them. I wish we had a leader here in the U.S. like Netanyahu. I consider him the best national leader on the planet at the moment.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. Israel can't "colonize" its own territory.
     
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    FGS Stop trying to tell me what I'M trying to do. One more time for the zealots (that's you BTW). I am NOT blaming BiBi for the attack. Hamas bears full responsibility for that. BiBi bears responsibility for the failed Isreali responce. And tellingly? When I asked you if that responce was effective? You refused to answer. So apparently you dont even believe your own BS.
     
  16. AFM

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    You are blaming Netanyahu for not preventing the Oct 7 attack.

    Hamas is nearly eradicated from Gaza. That’s about as effective a response as it gets.
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    Obviously, the land legally belongs to the state of Palestine as per the 1967 border agreement.
     
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    There is no state of Palestine. Israel owns the West Bank and Gaza until 2005 as the result of the 1967 six day war.
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    This is just flat out nonsense. The entire world doesn't agree with you - except for Israel.

    The state of Palestine is recognized and has diplomatic relations with 134 nations that are UN members.

    Israel has lost. They just don't know what to do about it. And, it is especially hard for Netanyahu, as he will not last in office due to the opposition of his own people.
     
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    What border agreement is that? Israel won Gaza, West Bank and Golan in the 1967 six day war. It is all part of israel. These lands belonged to Egypt, Jordan and Syria respectively before Israel took them in the war. They didn't belong to Palestine. There has never been a nation called Palestine, only a geographic area. The "Palestinians" are actually Israelis or, if you prefer, Egyptians, Syrians or Jordanians. There is no Palestine. Obviously you are incorrect. How many times do I need to repeat this to you? Catch up.
     
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    The Palestinian authority has diplomatic relations with some UN members, not Palestine. The Palestinian authority administers a part of Israel with Israel's permission. THERE IS NO PALESTINE.
     
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    Yes there is. The only problem is that the powers that be in Israel refuse to accept it, but they are not the ones in Palestine, so their opinion doesn't matter. If the Palestinians decide that they are a country, then they are. It is their decision, not the rest of the world's, and certainly not Israel's.

    The people who live in a place decide what their status is. they are the only ones that can.
     
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    The so-called "state of Palestine" voted by the United Nations is meaningless. Who cares who talks to the PLO?

    Israel has won to the benefit of Gazan and Israeli civilians. Netanyahu can be voted out at any time. Israel is a parliamentary democracy.

    I am one of the 80% of Americans who support Israel against Hamas.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-...pos3#:~:text=A CAPS/Harris,removed from power.
     
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    Israelis are turning on Bibi more and more. They are starting to realize how badly he has screwed them, condemning their children to more violence.

    Thousands marching in Tel Aviv.

     
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    What are the geographic boundaries of this so-called "Palestine"?

    People who live in Israel must obey the laws of Israel or face the consequences.
     
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