One thing coming out of the "Hush money trial"

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  1. CornPop

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    They still haven’t defined the underlying crime that Trump is being accused of. So how can they defend him from an allegation that hasn’t been made? The federal courts have ruled the Bill of Rights says that anyone charged with a felony must be fully informed of the allegations against them. But Bragg says NY law doesn’t require it so he is refusing. The judge is okay with it. And the prosecution is giving them literally 30 minutes notice, while they’re in court, to inform them which person they’re calling to the stand, even when the witness isn’t on the witness list for the defense to prepare. And the judge is letting them introduce new evidence on the fly. The whole process has been a rigged show trial designed to get Biden’s political opponent off the campaign trail. It is not designed to seek justice. They have been violating the law over and over again, which is probably why a lead investigator is pleading the fifth when asked if he broke the law working on this case.
     
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    As it should be.
     
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    You have to have a twisted view of the circumstances of the hush money payment to call it extortion. A view no doubt resulting from Trump's endless efforts to muddy the waters. My understanding is Team Trump approached her about buying her story so it wouldn't be made public right before the election. They pursued her, not the other way around.

    As for having no knowledge to provide to substantiate the case.........well........she was the schtoinkee........so there's that.
     
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    That's only true in the alternative facts world of MAGA. It's been described here from the beginning and righties keep saying it hasn't. :roll:
    They've been given the indictment.
    Which witness was that? NOT Stormy.
    Not true, they've had the opportunity to contest every bit of evidence introduced. And, for the most part, have.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    ""So how can they defend him from an allegation that hasn’t been made?""
    Prime example... not knowing what she would say.... the defense called for a mistrial because Stormy, once again, changed her story..... which included that she was leaning more toward "rape" now as she claims Trump blocked her from the door and she thought she was blacking out.... so is she lying now or did she lie before??? And Merchan let it go on in front of the jury...

    And.... again.... it had nothing to do with record keeping...
     
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    It is a misdemeanor unless you can find a crime which trump is not charged with and is not apparent in the original charging document. After Stormy got done lying yesterday there is even less reason for the trial to continue.
     
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    Well pop, that's why they have trials.

    But it's usually only the guilty that use "mistrial" as their defense strategy.

    I would think tRaitor tRump's supporters would want him completely exonerated by an innocent verdict.
     
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    The only fraud charge Trump is facing is in Georgia in a case in which nobody was defrauded. You can do better than that.
     
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    False business records are fraud.
     
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    Better than you, every single time, of course it's fraud, look at the charges brought by the DA, Falsifying corporate business records in furtherance of NY election interference AKA felony fraud. Now run along and pester someone else.
     
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    Falsifying corporate business records in furtherance of NY election interference AKA felony fraud. Two crimes in NY state, one in furtherance of the other = felony.
     
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    No it's fact ;) I have read the posts..
     
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    I would have preferred that this bit of political farce hadn't happened in the first place. It is bad for the country and all this lawfare crap did was guarantee Trump the Republican nomination.
     
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    Oh baloney. This case was a disaster a year ago even in the eyes of most leftist now it is increasing the last hope the dems have vs Trump as the Georgia case collapses in the corruption of the prosecutor and the documents case appears entirely a fraud.
     
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    Not charged with violating election law. Just fraud. So far testimony does not prove any such thing in either regard.
     
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    Why don't you post up the specific charging docs? Your denial lacks credibility. I'll wait for you to back up your false claim, waiting.....post up or...
    https://www.google.com/search?q=bra...-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    Two concurrent crimes create the felony fraud.
     
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    If you were a jury that was not advised that NDA and catch and kill are not illegal... and that a state prosecutor has no jurisdiction over federal election law.. that the original misdemeanor was out of date.... would that change your mind?
     
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    I wouldn't have a choice on the other hand the defense summation should include all of that among other things.
     
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    He already had that guarantee. There is no such thing, outside of in the minds of MAGA, as "lawfare".
     
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    It's extortion to tell someone I demand you give me $100K+, or I'm going to tell the world a secret you don't want out that will harm your family and political future. If someone did this to Alvin Bragg, they would be prosecuted.

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    Trump's lawyers have managed to postpone all his other criminal prosecutions, and the one they could not evade has been assessed as the most difficult in which to gain a conviction.

    Regardless of his lickspittles insisting that their idol is above the law, they have not been able to concoct a pretext to invalidate this one, merely become aroused when he throws his tantrums targeting the judge, the prosecutor, witnesses, the jury, etc.

    If Trump beats the rap, his winning the election becomes a more ominous prospect, although he'll just lie again and falsely claim he won anyway, and incite his goons to attack police again.

    In the meantime, pom-pom flailing kibitzers are superfluous.


    A majority of Americans say the charges agains Trump in his New York hush money case are “serious,” according to a new poll.

    The Yahoo News/YouGov poll found 57 percent of Americans agree “falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to a porn star” is a “serious crime,”
    a record high, according to Yahoo News. Thirty percent said the same crime is “not serious,” while 14 percent said they are not sure.
     
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    Summation.... as at the last after hearing it all?....

    it should have been Merchan duty to set that record straight from the beginning and not let the prosecution mislead the jury.
     
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    Yep..... just one more misdemeanor with a statute of limitation run out

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    This question has been asked and answered many, many times on the forums.
     

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