I really don't see the problem. 1) That is only one definition for atheist. Another is: the doctrine that there is no deity That's from Merriam-Webster. 2) The conviction, the belief, the idea is that it is foolish or improper to believe in god. This is the idea that some promote, some lie for, some are intolerant on behalf, and some even kill for. Do you at least admit that atheists have killed tens of millions?
I don't understand anyone who can deny the intelligence underlyng many universal processes. Just an example, one cell contains more information than an entire encyclopedia... I find it difficult to accept these are all random processes based on the chance occurence of having an environment that is suitable to sustain life. Certainly something put the thing into motion, in such an elegant way. It's like finding a Rolex watch in the middle of the desert and theorizing that over billions of years, the Rolex made itself out of random chance. Seems inconceivable to me, that there is not an underlying intelligence to many processes we take for granted.
Akhlut, you've been caught spreading the most ridiculous rubbish about Hitler, Stalin, Einstein, Edison, etc. Please admit your past errors. I've asked for evidence for some of your zany claims and you have failed to provide any. Another error. Most Native Americans were killed by disease. You can't blame Europeans much less Christians. Many Christians tried to protect the Native Americans. quote from Pulitzer Prize winner Jared Diamond: Infectious diseases introduced with Europeans, like smallpox and measles, spread from one Indian tribe to another, far in advance of Europeans themselves, and killed an estimated 95% of the New World's Indian population. Why should Christians be blamed? Please be specific?
Do you admit that religious has killed and kill tones of millions? And no, atheists have not killed millions. In name of atheism there aren't any killings, like in number of religions, mainly in name of the three main monotheist religions.
Just you are creating a problem, and almost everything has explication without this supposed god. Who created God? Just you're adding a question.
Which is asinine, as it implicitly puts false gods on the same level as the Creator; so this is most charitably interpreted to mean you have no idea what you're asking for evidence of. OTOH, an egomaniac finds it difficult to accept the idea that anyone might be smarter than himself. To such a person, nothing is more threatening than the possibility that someOne might exist Who can in a few days make a blade of grass he couldn't figure out how to make in a million years.
Why do you say The Black Book of Communism is wrong? Let's ignore their motives for the moment, can you just admit that atheists killed tens of millions? Christians have been involved in wars, what society hasn't? (Though Jesus taught his followers to avoid all violence.) Over the course of 2000 years, however, Christians haven't killed a fraction of the number killed by Communist atheists in only 80 years! And the number of deaths caused by atheism is much higher than 94 million. An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the deaths caused by right wing atheists. Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.
I'm not talking about a "God"...I'm referring to the notion that life emerged out of chaos and disorder...by sheer chance...I find this notion to be ludicrous given the substantial evidence for information transference on the cellular level.. and typically intelligence can be associated with information transference. In other words...evidence of a higher power is abundant...what this higher power is...well we don't know that of course....I don't believe everything is reduceable to random chance..I think that's intellectually lazy...
First, it's not ludicrous. It's just very unlikely. Second I dont' know anyone who says life arose by chance. So who are you talking about?
I dont even have to read this thread to know its content. "OH EM GEE LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE ATHEISM KILLS" "LOL, ATHEISM DOESNT KILL PEOPLE BUT THEISM DOES SOMEHOW." "NAH, YOU'RE WRONG. THEISM IS ABOUT PEACE ETC. PEOPLE WHO KILL DONT REALLY BELIEVE IN GOD AND EVEN IF THEY DID THEY DID IT FOR A DIFFERENT REASON." "OH EM GEE CHRISTIANS KILL MORE PEOPLE ANYWAY" ------------ How about everybody agrees that people kill people regardless? Kthxthreadover.
Please, there are a million ways to dress it up so it isn't so obviously retarded, but without a Designer that's what it amounts to.
Yeah, cosnidering that the actual Pope was of the youth of the Nazis. Sorry, but not, Hitler was theist, at least. Stalin was a communist dictator, the deaths are related to communism, not atheism. Atheism is just a consequence of the communism not a director line. And if there has existed attacks to religion has been for being oppresive, and never to the believers, if not to the people that was oppressing the people in name of religion. And always has been for other reason, for the freedom of the people, not in name of atheism. Not for spreading the atheism. The church has been represive. The church is behind terrible scandals like kidnapping of children(dictatorships of Pinochet, Argentina and Franco, Spain, for example), the Inquisition..., rapes, support of many represive regimes. And all this only to name the represion and murdering by the christianism, but later we have all the killing in name of the judaism and muslim. Sorry, but your argument that atheists are represive is wrong. We don't try to force on the rest our lack of belief in superstitions and imaginary beings.
If the people who make this argument had the ability to think straight, they wouldn't even make this argument. Both sides lose when it becomes a matter of counting up bodies.
Wrong. 1) All gods are false gods. 2) There's no more evidence for one god than another. 3) I'm asking for evidence of the claim of any deity; specific to each claim.
Those are extraneous to atheism. Those are the same ideals (opposite in context) as the christians you claim aren't really christians when they kill someone in the name of their god.
First, He isn't "a god", He is God. Second, the only logical alternative to an uncaused first cause is infinite regression, which only appeals to egomaniacs who cotton to the idea of keeping God at a comfortable (which for them = infinite) distance.
A magical button to delete religion and its deluded followers would have saved most of mankind from war, torture, mutilation, rape and death.