Rick Perry - Already bought and paid for.

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    So you want the government to take over all campaign financing? You want the currently elected politicians to decide who gets what money? That sounds like a huge conflict of interest to me.

    What about campaign ads? You still going to allow citizens to run them or are you going to stomp on their first amendment rights?
     
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    glitch Well-Known Member

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    So does Ron Paul accept no gifts from businesses? I can't believe that would be true.
     
  3. starbow

    starbow New Member Past Donor

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    Japan did not declare war on the US - there was a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor that forced the US into the war
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Semantics. When someone acknolwedges the role the 1941 oil embargo played in Peral Harbor, do you believe that they are blaming America?

    Or are they acknowledging that historical events have causes?
     
  5. starbow

    starbow New Member Past Donor

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    this is the way I see it, but we obviously disagree:

    December 7th 1941 a "day which will live in infamy", the US was deliberately attacked by Japan while peace negotiations were taking place. You have no way to know whether or not the oil embargo precipitated an attack on US territory by Japan during the period that Japan wished to absorb the relatively defenseless European colonies in Asia. Japan could have just as easily attack US facilities in the Pacific with no oil embargo. The attack came about because the US made clear with its naval prescence that it intended to stop Japan from consolidating its Greater East Asia Coprosperity Sphere.

    Sept 11, 2001, another infamous day, the US was deliberately attacked by Islamofascists who opposed a US prescence in the Persian Gulf and the existence of Israel.

    Both Japan and the backers of Bin Laden took the chance that the US would withdraw to a "safe zone" - away from the Western Pacific or out of the ME - if the attack were severe enough. both miscalculated because great powers do not become great powers by shrinking from challenges.

    Sadly Ron Paul shrinks in the face of our enemies, and really so does Obama.
     
  6. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    That's utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*). We have the memoirs of the Japanese planners at the time. They specifically cite the embargo as their main reason for trying to destroy the US fleet: they needed it out of the way so they could seize the oil fields in the Philippines and Malaya.
     
  7. Rapunzel

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    They are all bought and paid for...since JFK...wake up.
     
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    The Left Wing Bias is against Israel .
     
  9. Ethereal

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    Actually, since 1913. Wake up...:)
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    OK...you win.
     
  11. Roon

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    Well, Russia is about the only country left that supports Syria's genocidal leader and China is the ONLY supporter of North Korea...who has "the bomb"...they may not be entirely Islamic...but so what? Also, why should anyone other than Israel be preparing for an attack on Israel?

    I have said it before and I will say it again, if you support our current policies on Israel then to remain logically consistent and not a total hypocritical (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag you must support all domestic welfare for they are fundamentally the EXACT same thing.


    Netanyahu is insane, the guy shoots anything that moves the moment someone looks at an Israeli the wrong way. Yet you trust this cowboy with nukes?

    So Iran is not a nation anymore?
     
  12. Ethereal

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    In other words, neither China nor Russia has advocated for the annihilation of a western democracy - or any other nation for that matter - and has not funded any terror proxies that are responsible for the maiming and killing of US civilians and military.

    Because they're our allies.

    I reject your BS premise and I reject your BS insinuation about my character. I've been a Ron Paul supporter for years, so you can take your self-righteous tone and insert it somewhere.

    Complete idiocy.

    I repeat: The Iranian regime is not a "sovereign" authority. They are a totalitarian theocracy.
     
  13. ultranothing

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    “Texas median hourly wage is $15.14... almost exactly in the middle of the pack (28th out of 51 regions). Given that they’ve seen exceptional job growth (and these other states have not) this does not seem exceptionally low.”

    As to your claim about him "reaping the benefits" of regulated states - can you ascertain why he's reaping those benefits?

    Because he's not overly-regulating his state. That is the POINT, sir. Support for Perry is heavily dependent upon his call for less government interference and a return to constitutional principles. If more states would forego the economy-crippling government bureaucracies that infringe upon business, they too might be able to reap the rewards of a more healthy, self-regulating economic model (as our founders intended).
     
  14. Dispondent

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    What are you talking about? Every politician is bought and paid for on the national level. That's been the American way.

    Only the unwashed masses variety of socialist believes the violent revolution is possible. The High Priests of Marx, academia, learned a long time ago such was not the case and started preaching a new battle, start chipping away at everything Capitalist and Christian.
     
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    Oh, I see! You should contact the BLS and inform them of their error.
     
  16. starbow

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    there were oil fields in Malaya, but I don't think oil was a concern in the Philippines. the Japanese had access to oil in Manchuria. the Japanese wanted the Americans to acquiesce to their Asian mainland conquests, and they thought a shock attack would do that. big mistake on their part.

    look deeper in Japanese strategy, there was a northern strategy and a southern strategy and additionally a debate between the Navy and the Army over how to implement either. Pearl Harbor was in no way inevitable.
     

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