Turkey Threatens to Freeze Relations with EU

My question shows the stupidy of your analysis. But, okay, I will explain why your statement sucks so badly.

"Turkey for the Turks" doesn't work for the Islamist Turks. Simply because the motto puts the Kurds outside. "Turkey for the Turks" is probably the most single idea the Kurds oppose so violently, and Kurds are Muslims. So in practice it doesn't mean that Turkey for the Muslims at all.

What's more "Turkey for the Turks" not only practically works for the Turkish Jewish, but also many of them encouraged that idea. The Turkish Jews, like most of the Jews, are extremely capable of getting assimilated into foreign identities.

One of the brains behind the Kemalism was Moiz Kohen, he was the man who suggested the Turkification of the Turkish jews. And the Turkish Jews have never been driven off as far as I am aware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekin_Alp

 

Yes it can be detected very easily.
The lip part of the kemalist turk is green. after so many long nights filled with western imperialist arse licking, their lip is now sore and it has a green color

 

I made no assertions that it DID "work for the Islamist Turks, so Im not sure of your point there. And the Kurds are still there. The Christians and Jews are not. The Kurds fought alongside the Turks expelling the Armenians, Greeks and Georgians among others. All of them non muslims. I believe it was in the 30s the first declared that the kurdish race no longer existed in Turkey, and all the Kurds in turkey are actually "mountain Turks". As long as they were willing to assimilate, as Muslims, the Kurds have remained in Turkey and it is only when they refuse that they have been driven from Turkey

Soooo where did all the jews in Turkey go? Down to about 15 or 20,000. There were about 250,000 in 1900. Ever hear of the 1934 Thrace Pogroms?
Or do they edit that out of Turkey's history as well?

 

The existence of Kurds in Turkey doesn't mean that the Turkish nationalism gave them appropriate conditions to live in Turkey. In fact it's quite the opposite. The Turks made Turkey hell for the non Turk Muslims as well. That's why your statement is hilariously wrong. It is not practically Turkey for the Muslims. It's literally Turkey for the Turks. And It was actually Turkey for the secular Turks because many Islamist Turks were slaughtered as well.

And I heard about the Thrace Pogroms. It was a local incident as you might guess. One can find similar events in Europe as well because Nazism worked so hard to spread its propaganda to all over the world. But the numbers you gave is tricky. First and foremost Turkey had Salonica in 1900. Salonica was the Jerusalem of the whole Balkans, you know?

The attitude of the secular Turks against Jews has been clear. I gave you an example. Moiz Kohen was a well known leader of the Jewish community in Turkey. So.

 

+1, the Junta wanted Turkey exclusively for itself

 

Well, I have no idea what f* you are talking about. I am dreaming of what?

 

The Kemalists saved Turkey in the past. If it were not for Ataturk there would be no Turkey today.

 

Hahahahahaha

There would be no Turkey today, the classic, wow its even more classic than Sinatra!

well, Ataturk was an incredibly talented military officer. He was outstanding. He played HIS PART in our independence war with MANY OTHER brave generals. It is true he shined significantly and gained popularity among the public-Germany lost both world wars but they did not needed a hero to save their nationality- Turks would eventually gained freedom and yes there would not be a Turkey, but maybe something bigger might still have been alive-

 

I agree. Something bigger is coming. Kurdistan...free, independent and united.

 

Not over my dead body, not gonna happen.

 

It's going to happen. It can't be stopped. Turkey will someday be a much smaller country.

 

impossible. there is not even %1 chance of that happening. if that satellite would drop on a human being tomorrow, maybe kurdistan will be a reality, that kind of a chance we are talking about.

 

I think the same about the US. The southerns will finally get fed up with the Jewish controlled North, and gain freedom.

Sounds fun.

 

turk123

There certainly are a lot Turks in Germany, but 25% of the population. Where's your evidence when you declare that 'what ever you plan to do, do not forget 1/4 of Germany is Turkish.'

Are you suggesting that the Turks in Germany represent a Trojan Horse in any future conflict? If that's the case, then the Germans should immediately kick them out. Apart from the security issue, it would probably dramatically reduce its welfare budget!

 

dont focus too much on the figures, they are just numbers.
what i wanted to do is to exaggerate my opinion in a poetic manner to show you if there would ever be a west vs turkey conflict, millions of turks living in the west will not hesitate to play their part to serve their motherland, and too late about kicking out, they are already citizens of those countries.

no matter how germanized a Turkish kid in frankfurt is, there IS NO WAY he will be silent if Germany invades Turkey, just no way (figure of speech)

 

I made no assertions as to the appropriateness of their "conditions to live in Turkey". Merely that they continue to live in Turkey. The Kurdish population in Turkey today is larger than it was in 1900. The Jewish population has gone from 250,000 in the 1900s to 15-20,000 today, continuing its decline.

 

Is not the US allowing Turkey to conduct "anti-terrorism" aerial raids against Kurds in Iraq? Generally, these sorts of independence movements are wholly unsuccessful without US backing, and if America is willing to let the Turks massacre Kurds in a country we occupy... well, that should tell you right there how high up a "free, independent, and united" Kurdistan is on our list of priorities.

 

As I said before, you have to consider Salonica while numbering the Jews. Turkey is not the same Turkey in 1900. What's more I haven't heard any negative sentiments towards Kemalists by Jews. Please provide further information about difficulties of Jews under the secularist Kemalist rule.

as for the other parts, I have already explained why "Turkey is for the Turks" doesn't mean that "Turkey is for the Muslims in practice."

In practice It caused so harsh secularist policies.

 

Southern evangelicals are the ones who fawn most over Israel.

 

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Turk123, I guess in your everyday reality pigs can fly too?



You truely are delussional!

 

Why did you attack the only true statement that Turk123 has ever made. What reasons do you have to doubt that the Turks in Germany are the fifth column? It does not fit into your politically correct world view, I suppose, does it?

 

If that's the case, and these people have no loyalty to the country which has given them work and endless welfare, it just shows how stupid the West has been then. It's better to realise our mistake now, and kick these freeloaders out!

 

Yeah, I know it from the GOD TV. LOL.

But still I want my predict to stand as a symbol of ignorance so that one can see how terrible one can look when analysing a foreign country without knowledge.

 

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You're funny. Seems to me that Borat and Turk123 are two sides of the same coin. They find eachother in their extremism.

Analogy:

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I suppose that statement was criticized because contrary to what fits into your worldview the numbers of the professional number-crunchers of the "Statistisches Bundesamt Deutschland" prove it wrong.
(Yes Germany is so German that it has a federal office for statistics, hehe.)