I don't know the more I hear about him the more I feel that he is the way to go. He seems kind of strange to me, and not strong enough to debate Obama (which worries me alot). But, from what I have read...he doesn't flip flop, he has been very consistent, and he is strong on following the Constitution. So all you Paul fans out there....what gives? Tell me what you know, or think about him...please. Also, do you really think the DNC would ever get behind him? He will no doubt need the cash, considering Obama is campaigning ALREADY.
Ron Paul is what all the other candidates are not...he's real, and he's totally against 'going with the flow' or 'going along to get along' I might not agree with 'everything' he says, but nobody will ever be 'perfect'... He's getting my vote. Edit to add: I think this may be the wrong forum for this...noticed too late before replying
Very true JB, but who knows, they may kick him a few bucks... considering the fact he said he would not support a Republican nominee (assuming he didn't win the nomination). *rolls eyes*
He seems alright from what i know of him. Some of the other nominees are a bit out there. Paul has got to be better than Obama at the very least.
One key reason why I like him is because he strongly supports a smaller federal government. He is personally pro-life but he does not advocate imposing his personal beliefs on the people and would prefer the issue of abortion to be a state issue. Same with marriage. He realizes that the war on drugs has been a complete failure and that the war on drugs has cost more lives than the drugs it is fighting against. He has said that he would pardon ALL drug offenders in prison that have not previously committed a violent crime. http://youtu.be/J4gcnPm0SxQ He would end all of the unnecessary wars overseas and remove troops from countries where they are not needed. He has been called an isolationist by those that do not like him when in reality he is a non-interventionist. He supports a strong national defense but opposes unconstitutional acts such as the patriot act. He also understands that our financial situation cannot support the funding of all of these wars. Wars that haven't even been declared by congress, which is unconstitutional. http://youtu.be/XKfuS6gfxPY Just a fraction of the reasons why anyone should vote for Ron Paul.
Of course he is what the other candidates are not.someone who will serve the people instead of the corporations and more importantly,believes in the constituion of the united states oh and for the thread starter,he would OWN Obama in a debate if the lamestream media actually gave him the air time to do so but they wont because they fear Paul.
This is probably in line with most American's thinking. And just (*)(*)(*)(*) what the majority of America thinks huh? You realize support for the war on drugs is still around 70% right? The minute he says he's going to let heroin dealers out of prison the voters will flock to Obama in droves. http://youtu.be/J4gcnPm0SxQ Ron Paul and libertarians don't get to just declare what is and isn't Constitutional, that is the job of the Congress and if they fail, the Supreme Court. If we don't play world Cop, the Chinese will and you won't like it when they try to play cop on us. Our carriers can and should be able to go wherever they want. If we adopt a truly "non-interventionist" stance, then Japan will have no choice but to become a nuclear power, and begin a massive arms race with China which could lead to a pan-Asian war that would destroy not just the economies of China and Japan, but the entire world. http://youtu.be/XKfuS6gfxPY I'm unimpressed.
That statistic came from where? Umm... He isn't making his own decree as to what is and isn't Constitutional considering it specifies that there is a needed Congressional Approval and a Declaration of War to go to War. Clearly you seem to be missing those parts because you're currently approving of the Executive Power being an International Enforcer without Congressional Approval. Also I liked your fear mongering story it was quite informative as to how you think things will pan out if we stop having ~1000 bases across the World while no longer killing innocents. Clearly you should be Jihad Magician.
Based on his interviews he seems like a guy that truly is a "libertarian" on both economic and civil policy, but many "right-wingers" hate liberty and individuality when it comes to social issues and find abortion, recreational drug use, and gay marriage among other things wrong, despite being in support of private property laws. So, when asked "why do you support civil liberties, when most pro-free-marketers do not support civil liberties", Ron Paul gets quiet about how he supports peoples' rights to do the big A-word-ABORTION, and get married to the same gender, and even do *gasp* DRUGS if they please, and tries to get off that topic real fast, and shotguns to say "but everyone should be able to spend their own money as they want". People should indeed be able to spend their own money as they want, but many people who want the right to spend their money only exactly according to their own wishes, are against other peoples' rights to do with their own body (abortions, drugs, same-sex marriage) as that person pleases. They call these people Republicans. And Ron Paul is smart for focusing on the "you should be able to spend your money as you please" issue and ignoring the "you should be able to do with your own body as you please" issue because..because of already mentioned reasons. Libertarians, as in true libertarians and not superficially-liberty-seeking Republicans, will also side with a Republican (which isn't Ron Paul since again, he seems like a libertarian, but my previous sentence remains). Libertarians will side with Republicans over Democrats because if some gay people or people wanting to abort a fetus or people wanting to use drugs have to have their rights and freedoms violated, so be it, as long as they can spend their money as they choose. If I'm a straight non drug-using male American libertarian and I'm voting for one guy (a Republican) who will try to force people to not have abortions, I don't care because I'll never get pregnant. If the same guy wants to force people to not use drugs, I don't care because I don't happen to recreationally use drugs. If he'll force gay people to be punished for being gay, I don't care because I don't go after other males. But he will make it so that any money I earn, I keep. So he can violate my principles but it won't matter to *me* because the policies won't affect *me*. Ron Paul knows all this. He sides with Republicans, at least by name, because he knows that not ONLY will libertarians vote for him, Republicans will too, as long as he's a little quiet about actually supporting civil freedom.
Plenty of sources, but the problem is anytime I cite them I get th same bull (*)(*)(*)(*) about how its a conspiracy theory and a lie and can't be trusted, so why bother proving anything to a bunch of radicals who won't accept anything unless it comes from the mouth of Ron Paul himself? I don't care how hypocritical it sounds to you that tobacco and alcohol are legal and Heroin is not. I hate that (*)(*)(*)(*) so bad that if it was legal I would go on a one man crime spree and become a mass murderer of heroin users wherever I found them. I would blow up drug stores that sold the (*)(*)(*)(*). The (*)(*)(*)(*) is sheer poison that kills you within a year or two and forces the State to take care of your kids. There are no "innocents" quit playing that game. Appeasement doesn't work and withdrawing American power isn't "scaremongering" it's the facts. The President is Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces, not Congress and nothing in the Constitution says we can't fight police actions "short of war". Clearly you refuse to pull your head out of Ron Paul's ass and realize that the world and the demands of RealPolitik and the reality of the world doesn't match your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) black/white/right/wrong world view. When it comes to foreign policy I expect America to be hypocritical if it serves our best interests. The world are our competitors, not our friends.
Here is a nice cartoon I found about Ron Paul... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtv5BQ5ZwrI&feature=feedlik"]Can Ron Paul win? - YouTube[/ame]
Ah okay so you have no sources or you don't care to cite them because they're terrible sources... got it. Clearly children are innocents right? I guess the over one million dead civilians in Iraq were not innocents nor were the people who died in the 9/11 attacks either. There are no facts in your presentation because it's based purely on your imagination because you as a Human cannot perceive the possible future. (*)(*)(*)(*) the Republic and up with the Empire! That should be your new Motto... Also why aren't you in the Middle East killing the evil Jihadists?
And you wonder why other countries want to attack our civilians and ram planes into our buildings?...oh, thats right, cause we are "free and prosperous" right? Why do you hate democrats and liberals so much? Cause of their massive hypocricies that make their base more "prosperous". So why do you think it is ok for the GOP to be hypocritical to the rest of the world when it just breeds resentment against all of us?
So you just want to kill people. Got you. Thank you for admitting you want to blow buildings up. You might want to tone down your rhetoric. Admitting you want to be a terrorist is probably not the smartest thing. But hey its your choice. Enjoy Gitmo.
Please re read all these idiotic threads about Paul.. all trolls..talk about not being up front about politics. Paul does only focus on what he wants..and NEVER gets pressured about what he doesnt like. Gee ..Does Romney run and hide behind the constitution..or 9.9.9 or his church for support ? No. Does Paul have ANY historical difference in leadership that shows how he would lead ? ABSOLUTELY NONE. Safe .. quiet votes that NEVER mattered.. didn't count and didn't mean a Sheep poo thing.They prevented nothing because he NEVER had any support. EVER..anywhere. His stupid comments on national defense are seen as Dangerous and totally what would be wrong for our Nation at this time.I could give a rats butt about your precious civil rights..you Gave those up a long time ago to the nanny state. Voting for Paul would be like voting for the neanderthal caveman on the TV Ads..cute..trendy and different.Image is everything they NOW say. And the anti establishment Image is what Paul BANKS on for further future wealth.He is no different than Gore with the global warming BS..Pick a subject and MILK it to profit. The Paulites worship a false idol..a man made image created just for them. He has NEVER been a Republican and it will be studied for years after how letting him in hurt the eventual nominee. You libertarian pukes should stand UP and just admit the obvious.You are all for less government as long as it doesn't hurt you and you can get cheap pot.DONE DEAL. You idea of America is fine in theory ..maybe even enviable..but is not a realistic view of how the world works right now..today. My guy Romney is the only guy who can fix this mess and you guys focus on any little variations in statements going back 30 years.I focus on the facts of leadership as they really existed..Pay for Play..corruption at state and personal levels..effective leadership at every level. That last line will just fly right over your head. Paul has NEVER SHOWN effective leadership at any level..and he has many more years of history to show it./IF he had done so. Not the military..not in Texas..not in Congress..not in Presidential campaigns.Not in education..3rd Party development.. immigration..health care..defense.. NO effective leadership.NONE..ZERO ..NADA.. So now attack me for delivering the obvious.Other than the years Paul runs as President like ground hog day..you never HEARD OF anything he ever did.. I wonder why ? Obama fooled the majority on image last time.. DONT be fooled again.
Well, an Oct 2nd 2008 Zogby poll showed 3 in 4 Americans thought the war on drugs was failing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#cite_note-90
Funny .. Ha ha or not.. Why does retreating from a strong military position and drug policy seem tied to Paul ? I wonder what the polls might say if Paul was elected by some miracle and his agenda was accepted by another miracle..when terrorist from anywhere attack us using the southern border for intrusion and use drug money to buy a weapon of Mass destruction ? Improvable you say..impossible others say...unheard of..never happen ? Of course..you guys are HIGH... Buy the book by Paul.. Leave running the nation to others.
No one should vote for Paul, If McCain was to old for you Paul is to. If fact McCain was born in 1936 and Paul was born in 1935. Old wouldn,t you say.
