‘Conspiracy theorists’ sane, government dupes crazy and hostile

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    they only light the match the substance is supported by peer reviewed psychology reports from Universities in the US and the UK. Nice try to downplay how irrational OSHuggers are.
     
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    Some pack of idiots put their tin foil on with the shiny side IN. It goes outside, guys.
     
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    Actually, no. It is unsupported by observable scientific forensic evidence and called into question by the terrorist ties of some of the theorists
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    but thats a lie now isnt it!

    Psychologist Laurie Manwell of the University of Guelph agrees that the CIA-designed “conspiracy theory” label impedes cognitive function.

    She points out, in an article published in American Behavioral Scientist (2010), that anti-conspiracy people are unable to think clearly about such apparent state crimes against democracy as 9/11 due to their inability to process information that conflicts with pre-existing belief.



    they are saying the OSHuggers are freaking fruitcake nutters
     
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    Says the person who believes no planes crashed into the WTC. **** on.
     
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    "vertical column", is redundant.

    ALL columns are vertical.
     
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    A column is a structure that transfers load axially. A beam is a structure that carries load perpendicular to its axis.

    You're thinking in terms of gravitational loads, but not all loads are parallel to the force of gravity. Think about an above ground pool, for example. The vertical members around the perimeter of the circumference of the pool act only as columns to bear the weight of the horizontal members that ring the top of the structure. Their main purpose is to carry the load the water, which pushes outward against them.

    Conversely, the horizontal members act as columns in tension, preventing the ring of vertical members from spreading outward under the force exerted by the weight of the water. The load they carry as beams is only their own weight, and the weight of anyone foolish enough to stand on them.

    That being said, "vertical steel columns have to be taken out for a building to fall" is also a pretty simplistic statement as well.

    Think of a strand of spaghetti as a vertical steel column. Pin one end of the spaghetti to a table with a piece of gum or something. What you've created is a cantilever. The the WTC was a cantilever. Apply an axial force to the top of the spaghetti and observe what happens. As you load the spaghetti, you create instability in the spaghetti. This instability causes the spaghetti to bow. The spaghetti does not remain straight. This is buckling, and this is what happened to the columns in the WTC structure. They were loaded beyond capacity by the dynamic force of the falling load from above, and this caused them to buckle. This buckling action is what "took them out", or reduced the stability of the structure below the plane of collapse.
     
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    column holds a load by compression.

    beam holds a load by tension.

    most beams are horizontal.

    most columns are vertical.
     
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    The Towers came down in what 15 seconds or so? The buckling columns would have substantially slowed the destruction of the lower stories by the upper stories. It takes time to buckle that many columns, and it would have pancaked. I don't buy that theory.
     
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    I don't buy your opinion. Show me with math.
     
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    Are you familiar with the other building the architect designed? He designed the Dhahran Airport.

    I knew the towers would collapse.. and I was white knuckled that morning praying .. GET OUT....
     
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    which licensed Professional Engineers state this?

    which PhD level AIA licensed architects state this?

    which professional architectual or engineering institutions agree with these findings?
     
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    I'm not familiar with that building. Thanks. I will check it out.

    Yet, I disagree. A collapse because an airplane hit a high rise building makes no sense. Buildings are designed specifically to stand while on fire. Building codes require it. That is why there are professional architects and engineers speaking out.
     
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    the WTC was not designed to stand forever after being hit by a fully-fueled 757.

    but both towers survived the initial impact and explosion, and tens of thousands of people were saved because of this.
     
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    post the specs please
     
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    sorry guys, but when it comes to collapses of skyscrapers, I listen to the most experienced and the most qualified experts.
     
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    NIST? Let me know what your superiors say about "Experts Speak Out" if you have the guts to show it to them.
     
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    Give it up your "experts" aint. They used to include one Dr. Michael Rotch, a JREFER. Think about it.
     
  23. Kokomojojo

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    JREF and the ass helmet OSHugger club?

    They are so owned its hilarious.

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    think about it
     
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    this criminal

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    no, all architecture and engineering associations around the world.
     
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