‘Squad’ member Tlaib votes ‘present’ on resolution condemning sexual violence by Hamas as weapon of

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  1. CornPop

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    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-condemning-sexual-violence-hamas-weapon-war/

    Even after her censure, she continues to be the supporting backbone of terrorists in the US Congress. The House voted to condemn rapes by Hamas, and Tlaib was the only representative who refused to approve the measure. She continues to be the support terrorists want within our legislature. There are other representatives with questionable views on this issue; however, she seems to be setting herself apart from even that pack.
     
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    Loyalty. Who knew that folks like Tlaib couldn't be counted on to be loyal to the US? Her loyalties seem to be to her terrorist roots. Its sad. It's time she is removed and deported.
     
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    I love how you righties tell people what they do and don't support based on interpretations using your own hypocritical value set.

    For instance, I fully expect you people to start crying about how I support Tlaib and terrorism and whatever else you can fabricate based pointing out your hypocrisy.
     
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    This should be in the conspiracy theories sub category
     
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    It’s a conspiracy theory that tlaib voted present?
     
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    How could they possibly think that about you when you’ve clearly been so critical of Tlaib?

    oh wait…
     
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    How could they possibly think that about me when I’ve clearly been so supportive of Tlaib?

    oh wait...
     
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    Zero need to fabricate that you evidently have no problem with what she voted. Your entire lack of condemnation and your attempt to turn it around is nothing but further confirmation
     
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    I agree with Tlaib. The biggest traitors are the politicians who take money from AIPAC and send weapons to Israel to commit genocide.
     
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    I guess you would have some sort of point if that was actually the topic.
     
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    If your only purpose for being here is not to even talk about tlaib but only be critical of anyone critical of her, then that says it all about you, plain and simple—you support her, youre just afraid to actually come out and say so, so you content yourself with attacking those who oppose her.

    you couldn’t be more transparent if you were made of glass.
     
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    Most people recognize that Israelis were subjected to sexual violence during the Hamas invasion, and most people are willing to condemn that. I personally don't care much about the opinions of people who deny this reality or condone this behavior through the refusal to condemn these actions by Hamas directly. I'm sure there are plenty of threads where your conspiracies that women weren't the victims of sexual violence can be vomited all over the screen. People who tapdance around these facts or provide tacit support for terrorists are a waste of my time.
     
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    Some people refuse to condemn Hamas and have argued against the fact that Hamas sexually assaulted Israelis. I've stopped posting in some of the other Israel/Hamas threads due to the antisemitism I've been witnessing.
     
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    Are you saying hamas raped Israelis, yes or no?
     
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    That's a conspiracy theory
     
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    You won't be disappointed, Mohammed.
     
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    I just find it to be an odd thing to focus on. It's like, what, if you're going to kill and torture people, make sure you keep it non-sexual? It's just stupid. Is rape worse than murder in people's minds or something? It's not that it's a good thing, but it's like focusing on how a guy was kicked in the balls (or sodomized, if you want to keep it as comparable as possible) by his murderer rather than the fact that he was murdered. I don't get it at all.

    As far as this politician though, she cited the lack of similar acknowledgement of IDF soldiers committing sexual crimes as the reason.

    I agree with her that the main reason for such a resolution is to try to justify war crimes against Palestinians.
     
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    Sexual violence and torture of women as a political weapon is generally considered a big deal. What are her examples of IDF soldiers committing sexual crimes? What I see is a woman who called for genocide, making up excuses not to condemn the rape of Jews.
     
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    Political weapon? That makes no sense. This wasn't that at all. The guys were doing what soldiers do to enemy civilian women when they have no moral constraints. Vile but no more vile than killing them in the first place. It's certainly not an aspect of the conflict that Hamas wants to emphasize, or any so-called religious fighter.

    It would seem like a big deal to me if it wasn't in the context of the much bigger deal of murder. Like if they hadn't been killing Israelis, but were raping them, it would still be a big deal even if nobody died. But the fact that people were being killed is an order of magnitude more of a big deal to me than rape, so in the context of people who were killed, it seems like focusing on something relatively less important.

    I think both sides deserve condemnation for killing innocent people, and passing a resolution like this is just siding with the monster we like better.
     
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    I am not a fan of the 'present' vote option. We don't pay Congressmen just to be 'present' in the building. We pay them to take a public stance, make a public decision and stand by that decision. Its a cowardly vote and it has no place in representative governance.
     
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    While the raped victims are no less dead, such actions reveal how these mindless savages have become more vile. There was no occupation in Gaza prior to them murdering, raping, mutilating, an kidnapping. (All are war crimes)
     
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    Terrorism is a political weapon. When you use rape and sexual assaults on a population you are invading, you are using sexual violence as a political weapon. If you need more clarity on understanding this basic concept, I would point you to our DOJ, the UN, Human Rights Watch, etc. I don't feel the need to spell out basic information.

    And nobody said murder isn't a bigger deal than sexual violence. The murders of Israeli civilians during the Hamas are well documented, and nobody is disputing it. What people have been disputing is whether or not Hamas was using sexual violence as a political tool in the conflict of their invasion of Israel. You've even claimed you don't understand that this basic statement doesn't even make sense to you.

    The UN was slow to recognize it, anti-Semites have been slow to recognize it, etc. This bill was about Congress standing in solidarity, saying it happened and it was wrong. Rather than Tlaib signing on to the bill, she refused to do so because, as history has shown, she has been slow to condemn or even refused to condemn Hamas's actions. And rather than condemn Hamas, she tends to blame Israel. The fact is that Hamas had their terrorists do this as a tool during this conflict. Rape and sexual violence in war isn't new to humanity. Generally speaking, people can agree that it is wrong, and the people who do it should be condemned.

    You defended her statement, claiming Israel did the same thing as an excuse not to condemn these actions. I asked you for proof of that. She provided none. You have provided none. The only thing you have in common is downplaying the actions.

    All I'm hearing is, "but, but, but.. this other thing is more important so it's okay to not condemn this. But, but, but Israel did something too that I refuse to provide of so that's a valid defense..." It's a garbage excuse.
     
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    QED

    LMAO, you people never fail to deliver !

    PS - @Tipper101 , too.
     
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    And yet not a single word of condemnation for the Democrat Muslim women, thus confirming what is obvious to all. Your silence speaks volumes and says all there is needed to say
     
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    QED II !
    :applause:
     

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