100,000 Australians For Same Sex Marriage!

Anyone with half a brain would be against same sex marriage....

 

Actually, the tide is turning quite quickly here also now!
The last polls that people in favor of gay mariage now have a slim advantage!

And France just passed the law to allow gay unions also. Belgium passed that law several years ago.

I really believe its going to happen within the next 3 or 4 years across most of the US as well, in spite of the dinosaurs who are dragging their feet!

 

We have a minority government and so Gillard is afraid to upset the religious right wing who voted ALP last time.

 

Has nothing at all to do with the fact she herself is against it...na you would rather blame it on the right...

 

You wouldn't think it would be too far off. Based on that percentage, one wouldn't think it would effect party votes greatly. Abbott is a closet supporter, he is just playing to the tune of his solid base who probably make up half of the 40%, along with the national party who are completely right wing with no centre cross overs.

 

There are a few in the Liberal Party who support gay marriage. They openly support it. I guess they're scared of Abbott and/or their core base which is against it.

 

You would be surprised at how much pressure certain churches place on governments......still.

The pressure is inadvertent, but is pushed through the congregation.

 

I'd call that a very precise statement of exactly the opposite of what ought to be considered correct. Why are you against it?

 

Wasn't there a bit of pressure on liberal MP's by Abbott not to cross the floor ? It probably would have got through had Abbott allowed MP's to have a conscience vote. I suppose it would have depended on the numbers in labors right as to whether the support from the liberal left would have cancelled out their vote so to speak.

 

Did the Liberals used to brag that all their votes were conscience votes?

 

Churches are obviously strongly indoctrinated with the abomination notion. I have heard of some churches embracing it now they apparently have a different perspective on scripture related to it. I couldn't expand on it, but have only read briefly about it. I suppose most churches are still against but not all, is what I am trying to say.

 

Absolutely, they epitomised democracy apparently. They can take that feather out of their cap for a while!

 

So you are assuming that a majority of the ALP are supportive of the policy??? You assume that the Coalition was the only stickler? Even your own PM was against it.

The problem is, that while this may have passed through other means, such as anonymous vote, then there would have been a better chance of it passing. But considering a larger amount of politicians would have the belief that they are supported by the average Joe and that a majority would be against it. They voted the way they believed would seem to win those votes in their electorates.

The church is placing great pressure on politicians to not support any policy of this kind. The amount of funding and lobbing is incredible and this is what the politicians listen too.

Forget the party politics on this, as this had absolutely nothing to do with how voting goes. Much happens behind the scene that blocked such policy. Forgetting the moral and freedom rights, how much would this have cost the government? Imagine welfare that would have to now include these couples. Imagine the loss in revenue. Regardless of lifestyle these people contribute greater than you and me to the community and government coffers as a couple.

 

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As I understand it....God never gave us the choice to vote on Sin.

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He also never gave us the right to take another humans life, but we do that readily enough....... And at times under his name.

 

As for the first sentence you wrote, read what I wrote gazza. Man o man you lack comprehension to a sad degree buddy. The rest of your comments are fine. Stop constantly being on the attack dude, you tend to wreck good discussion!

 

Why are you so intolerant and abusive of anyone who doesn`t agree with you?

 

Yeah that was really abusive...You're clearly a homophobe. I'm just wondering why? I'm intolerant of your intolerance.

And you have the audacity to call me abusive and intolerant of people with whom I disagree, after telling gays to stay on the closet. Not only do you want to deny them proper equality, you want them to be introverted and repressive. It's nauseating.

 

Homosexuals have 100% equality with the rest of us. There is nothing I can do that a homosexual can't do. There is no inequality, it is just a political slogan.

 

They can't marry the person they love.

 

Um what are we talking about in this thread? They can't get married.

 

But I can't marry someone of the same sex either. So where is the inequality? Marriage is a formal union between a man and a woman. If you do not constitute a man and a woman, you do not fit the critera for getting married.

 

Where in the laws of physics is that written?

 

That is the most ridiculous logic.

I realise marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman. Fortunately, we're not bound by thousand year old definitions and can change them. Marriage, IMO, ought to be changed to the union between two people.