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Oh so tolerance is a one way street...really....

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Bud there is middle ground and thankfully kwigybo does not speak for all the gay community.

 

Yeah that's goo.d You want tolerance of your belief, which is dripping with intolerance.

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It's not a one-way street. But tolerance can only go so far. When people start hurling vitriol in the form of homophobic abuse, it's only a coward that would act like it's okay.

 

As I have said before, his opinion is just as valid as yours...you hate that fact but it is a fact

 

Validity of opinion is subjective. I don't consider an opinion based on prejudice to be particularly valid when talking about this issue. You're talking about his right to voice an opinion; which I never contested. I never said he had no right to an opinion. I never told him to shut up or go away. The right to have an opinion does not mean I have to respect his opinion.

 

And yet here you are throwing a tantrum because he wont respect yours...oh the fails

 

It's amazing that the more bigoted someone's opinion is the more they demand that they have the right to have said opinion respected.

 

You will find that it works both ways.

 

Interesting? I would say it was inevitable. Of course they are led by faceless men. only fools would consider that it was really independent of all influence. The point is how they are led by these faceless men.

As less than 1% of the population has signed a petition and a poll claims that 60% of the population support SSM and you assume these to be supportive figures. As all politicians know a poll is not predictive of the reality of the situation. Not only does it depend on the questions asked but where and when the poll is taken. Fact is that many will say one thing and make them pay in the election booth, politicians know that and lobby groups rely on it.

I have no idea about Abbott did anything about a conscience vote, I knew it would not get up. This is because the only reason it was brought before parliament was to placate the Greens. This subject is far too sensitive for the ALP and the Coalition to actually do the right thing. The problem being, the fact that nobody is sure exactly how it will affect the future of parties and politicians. You seem to forget that the religious sector of the community is dead against it, due to theology and the influence over the voting public is incredible. This is what shakes the parties to the core on this debate.

However, that being said, the real problem here is the fact that many will not separate their theology from their politics. Again, you hear all about how this is a catholic country, many will say one thing and voting another, the politicians know that and the lobby groups use that.

 

Yeah....the parts don't fit. Homosexual behavior is wrong (a sin). It's not 'natural'. It's entirely selfish (no reproduction). It's unhealthy. It's creepy....very creepy. Is that enough?

 

No one should ever separate their theology from anything in their lives. If we don't 'live' our beliefs, then we're hypocrites. One cannot be a Christian and a practicing homosexual at the same time (although I understand their desire to have fire insurance). It just doesn't work.

 

Does anybody give a damn about what happens in Australia?

I mean, sure, their women are good for banging, but why should either I or my penis care about anything else?

 

You mean like your mother? lol

 

This Tosser doesn't have a mother. If it did she wouldn't own up.

 

We find the PC left saturated with self satisfied, bigoted fanaticism. Not very deep thinking here. To preach tolerance, while abusing others for having a differing opinion, to one`s own indoctrination, isn`t a sign of a strong mind. This is just one of the facets of the pampered dependants of our tolerant society. To be provided for, protected and pampered throughout one`s life, rarely results in a mature outlook. Wage earners, welfare recipients, people who don`t have to take risks, who expect society to take care of their every need and wish, very rarely develop to mental maturity.

We see Wayne Swan, raving and ranting like a rabid chihuahua, barking mad, hysterical, screaming out pure naval gazing rubbish, at the taxpayer`s expense. Our beloved PM, employing the same embarrassing tactic, disolaying a completely undicsiplined, immature mind, the mental feebleness of accusing a man of misogyny for no other reason than the date of his birth. How nuts is that?

With responsibiility comes maturity.

 

You can be a Christian and still allow other people to make their own decisions.

 

Homosexuality is a green agenda and as with any green agenda its rare to get the truth.

Back in the 70's studies where done to find out how much of the population was gay?

It turns out only 2% of the population was gay.

Yet the gays where going around saying 10%, which they later admitted was a lie to boost their profile.

 

Then the criteria needs to be changed.

 

Garbage !!

 

I don't want to get married to a fat woman and yet I don't think marriage between fat people shouldn't be allowed.

 

in your opinion yes...

 

Bad example tank

Homosexual relationships are littered with violence and polygamy, they cant keep to one partner and the dominant one always abuses the subordinate one.

Not to mention that some 18% of homosexuals think its quite ok to raise a child and when it comes of age have sex with it too.

Or the fact that some homosexuals think pedohilia is ok and part of the homosexual umbrella.

Running of to gardens in the middle of the night to have sex with perfect strangers, you think these people are fit enough to bring up children???

These people can do whatever they want to them selves behind closed doors.

But to accept and give them the privelages of a married couple? and raise children!!!

Nup aint going to happen, if anything they should be show to a doctor to fix thier problem.

 

I find that interesting. The way it has become more apparent that there is a gay populations (you know 'out of the dark') with the amount of complaint over the issues with gay people, I really would have thought it was higher.

However, With that little bit, the push for political change is definitely the Greens.

 

Yes, we should live our beliefs, but we do not have the right to impress our beliefs onto others who may have different beliefs. Politics needs to be separated from church as many of the Muslim nations now show and the Christian nations have shown in the past (and still show, obliquely).

That is a religious question. This would be (and I assume is) better in a religious thread to debate. From my understanding the Christian church has OK'ed the acceptance of Homosexual Christians. To me that would appear very hypocritical but apparently it was ordained by the Pope. However, they do still preach that homosexuality is a sin so this could really be an interesting point. But I do get your point of PRACTICING.

But the important thing to remember when discussing any religion, in politics. God is stated the almighty... religion is manmade, both are very different concepts. Many things in all religions are based on the same things, but beliefs are differing through manmade religious beliefs.

 

Hi Garry

I just had a look for the original article that i read but cant find it, i did find something similar though here,
http://www.banap.net/spip.php?article79

 

What D&D said is correct, the average amount of gays in any country around the world is around 2 -3 %...the extreme gay agenda like faggys like Bob Brown want to make people believe that it is normal not to be normal!

This is how the leadership of the extreme Gay agenda speak like (sickos)
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The pursuit of children is part of the homosexual agenda as seen by the following quote from the Homosexual Manifesto, by Michael Swift published in The Gay Community News, Feb. 1987:

We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They shall be recast in our image. They will come to crave us and adore us.

Whole article here from those sicko Gay leaders:

Homosexual Manifesto

AN ESSAY ON THE
HOMOSEXUAL REVOLUTION *

Authored by Michael Swift
Presented for info by the PhilFam Committee
10 June 1998


http://panindigan.tripod.com/homorev.html