1952- 2022 - 70 years

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  1. Tejas

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    1952- 2022



    Next year 2022 Queen Elizabeth II whose rule began in 1952 will have ruled for 70 years.

    British-Israelites believe a British monarch will rule until Christ returns to reign as the King of kings.


    70 years also has interesting Biblical symbolism...

    70 years is the Biblical average age of a man [Psalm 90:10.] The ancient king of Babylon had a very symbolic dream about a man who symbolized the empires that would rule God's people beginning with ancient Babylon. Daniel 2

    70 years was the God decreed period of time for ancient Babylon to rule the nations [and maybe also Revelation's end of the age globalist Babylon ??] Jeremiah 25:11 , Jeremiah 29:10 , Daniel 9:2

    70 years was Tyre's wake-up call. Isaiah 23:15-16


    1952 was also a major UFO flap year when UFOs were seen around the world.

    June 1952 Putin's "holy fool" forerunner and spiritual advisor was born.

    July 1952 UFOs were widely seen around Washington DC two weekends in a row.

    Sept 1952 UFOs were widely seen during NATO military drill "Operation Mainbrace".

    Oct 1952 Putin was born... Oct 2022 Putin will turn age 70.

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    There is also an interesting "Tower of Babel" number 70 connection [Babel is the root word for Babylon.] Genesis 10 lists 70 patriarchs descended from Noah's three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

    The word, Babel [as in the Tower of Babel] is the root word of "Babylon"... both mean/symbolize mixed confusion.

    Because the fall of the "Tower of Babel" is related to the fall of ancient Babylon and the fall of Revelation's globalist evil empire also symbolically called, "Babylon"... there is a definite connection of the number 70 to God's destruction of all THREE incarnations of Babylon.
     
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    Lol, I seriously doubt Jesus has any desire to be a king, let alone king of kings.

    I’m pretty sure the apostles, and then all of Christianity, completely missed the point of most of Jesus’ teachings. Especially when they decided to scrub any mention of reincarnation from the Bible. It’s far easier to control the peasants when other humans control the fate of their souls rather than souls having the opportunity to continuously learn over infinite lifetimes.

    I’m sure many, if not most Christians will find my views ridiculous. To each their own. Spirituality should be a personal matter. The path to god and all the answers we will ever need Are within us, no church or books required.
     
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    Apophenia much?
     
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    I saw this on another forum and immediately thought of the winepress symbolism in Isaiah 63 [which is the OT companion to Rev 19:11-21]


    Archaeologists from the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) have unearthed a Byzantine-era winepress, a gold coin, and a bronze chain for a glass lamp at a site near Ramat Ha-Sharon in central Israel.

    The excavation unearthed evidence of industrial agricultural activities at the site dating to the Byzantine period, about 1,500 years ago,” said Dr. Yoel Arbel, director of the excavations from the IAA.


    http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/byzantine-winepress-ramat-ha-sharon-10058.html



    Winepress!

    Especially a Christian Byzantine winepress!

    That is very symbolic of Isaiah 63 because Edomites again rule Judea as they did during the time of Christ. [King Herod's dynasty were Edomites who ruled Judea as Rome's client kings during the time of Christ.]

    This quote from Isaiah 63 is the OT companion to Rev 19:11-21 [Isaiah 63 tells us why the warrior on the white horse in Rev 19:11 has blood on his garments. It's Edom's blood.]

    Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

    Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

    I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

    For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

    And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

    And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.


     
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    Reincarnation? Nonsense... We get one chance to prove our faith in Christ or whatever the doctrine and commandments are at the time we are alive.
     
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    Sounds like a sorry excuse of a god to impose those kinds of expectations on people, considering the majority of humankind is not even Christian. The god I know loves all of creation, and would never doom them to hell just because they had difficult circumstances in their life and never even talked to a christian before, let alone become one. What about all the people that existed before christianity was a thing. Did they all go to hell by default? Somehow I doubt it.

    Humanity wasnt ready for the teachings of Jesus when he lived. The apostles twisted his teachings, that they themselves misunderstood, and Constantine and friends finished the distortion when they cherry picked what went into the bible. But the seeds of the spirituality he taught were planted. Luckily humanity is reaching a point now where Jesus' teachings can be better understood. Christians certainly didn't understand. The world would be way less screwed up if they did.

    Jesus's teachings can be found within all of us, not in the crazy dogmatic teachings in the bible and in churches. I'm not saying christians are bad or anything, just for the most part misguided. I think many are waking up to that fact though. They are starting to realize how ridiculous their teachings on things like homosexuality and whatnot are.

    The bible does have some good wisdom in it. Humans were unable to totally corrupt Jesus' teachings. But it certainly is filled with a lot of nonsense as well, mostly designed to keep peasants in line. Ultimately, the book isn't required. All that is needed is quiet meditation and introspection, and god's guidance will find you, as we are all part of god, because god is all there is.
     
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    If there were a god of the absolutes stated in the Bible, I'd be surprised if "he" graded on the curve like that.
     
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    You aren't God. It isn't your call. There is no reincarnation...Babel on if you like. But, Jesus Christ is our savior and redeemer who gives us the help needed to make it to the Highest Degree in the Celestial Kingdom of Heaven. For those who can cut the mustered. For the rest, they are free to make up their own religions that make them feel good about their bad decisions.
     
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    He sort of does. The key is repentance and his doctrine of salvation. Not what we think. But, what He thinks.
     
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    We are all parts of god, but are veiled so that creation (god) can have a sense of itself. This creation is a beautiful thing, though filled with many contrasts. Without the contrasts existence would have no meaning. So christianity does have it's place. It helps provide the contrast, so that when we discover the truth within ourselves, we can recognize how beautiful it is compared to the muck that humanity has been dragged through for the last few thousand years. It helps to illuminate the truth when it is found in our personal journeys through spiritual awakening.

    As far as making up religions, every religion ever has been "made up". It is generally used to make a group feel morally superior to others, even though that group may be causing atrocities. "DEUS VULT!!!". Lol.
     
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    No, repentance isn't an element of grading on the curve.

    You said, "...whatever the doctrine and commandments are at the time we are alive."

    While that is a general issue, maybe you were thinking of the Christians throughout history who have slaughtered people for not accepting your particular religion.

    Do you think God LIKES that?

    Or, NOT?

    Do you think God changed his mind about that?
     
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    We are children of God, not part of God. And yes, what we knew before descending from Heaven as spirit children of our Heavenly Father is veiled over our minds so that we come to the truth of Christ through faith, hope and charity in Christ. Jesus Christ also descended from Heaven, received a physical body as we have. But, he ascended back into Heaven as a glorified man to take his place at the right hand of the Father and make up one of the three separate and distinct personages of the Godhead. It's through him that we can become perfect and obtain all our Father has. But, it takes faith on earth to do all we can with what we have to find those with authority to perform the necessary ordinances. For those who did not have access to someone with authority then it can be done for them vicariously in the Temple of the Lord. Through faith, they are necessary. And, because of this, we don't need a second chance or more on earth. We get one chance. And, you are correct that it doesn't have to do with religion. It has to do with who Jesus Christ gives his authority to do the work on this earth. Those people can do this.
     
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    It isn't about "religions." That's your hang up. Jesus has given a particular group or church his authority to do his works of salvation like baptism, Temple ordinances and so on. While we are The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in my opinion, we are not Christians or a part of the Christian religion in which you have your hang ups with. But, we do believe in Christ. The difference is we have Christ's authority to do his work, to bring to past the immortality and eternal life of man. With that said, we are but humans and not glorified beings yet. We will make mistakes and have to repent. But, that does not diminish the purpose and direction of the Lord's Church or group of people.
     
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    That's pretty arrogant thinking Jesus favored your religion above all others on earth. And utterly ridiculous. Jesus, and god, loves all regardless of religion or creed. Hindus and buddhists as much as Christians and Muslims. All serve a purpose in creation, and there is much truth to be found in all spiritual traditions.
     
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    I pointed out that you said, "...whatever the doctrine and commandments are at the time we are alive."

    You are suggesting that your god is judging you by a changing set of doctrines and commandments.

    I'm surprised that you would claim that your god has changing guidelines for measuring human behavior.

    I can see how that might be a handy way of explaining the support god gave for obviously evil human behavior in the past - the slaughter of Jericho in order to take land, the slaughter of the several "inquisitions", the death meted out to those in England who improperly chose between Catholicism and Protestantism, etc. You can say, "Well, those were the doctrines and commandments of the time."

    But, I fail to see that as an excuse when the religion is based on a timeless and unchanging god.
     
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    My spouse died last year!

    There was a recent storm that knocked over some bushes in the garden.

    In the rain I saw something white in the bushes so after it stopped raining I went out and took a closer look.

    Turned out to be an Arum Lily which was one of the favorite flowers of my late spouse.

    Does that mean that there is any religious significance?

    Given the size it must have been growing there long before she died.

    They also grow wild in this area.

    So while it might be comforting to assign some religious significance to this matter it is far more likely to be coincidental.
     
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    You said it was about doctrine. And, you were specific in stating that it was dependent on the time.

    Now you say "we have Christ's authority to do his work."

    Is slaughtering those of other religions "his work"? If not, how do you know that, as it certainly was "his work" as documented throughout history, including in the Bible.
     
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    My deep regrets -
     
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    time is just an illusion, an abstraction that our simple minds need to make sense of the universe. Once we shed this mortal coil, time doesn’t exist.

    also, our spirits exist in this mortal form, as well as in a higher vibrational state. Our higher selves.
    If you feel you are still with her in spirit, I suppose it could be a manifestation of that belief, or perhaps a manifestation of her love for you, as time would not be an issue for her. Nothing religious about it, just your your spirit expressing your love for your wife, and ordering the world around you to reflect that.

    anyways, that is how my beliefs would account for that. Take it with a grain of salt, lol.
     
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    Why is it ridiculous to grasp the fact that the Godhead isn't a Godhead of disorder? Our Father's house is a God of order and a God of prayer. If all religions have equal footing with completely different beliefs, doctrines, commandments and Ordinances, then that is a house of confusion and disorder. So, your opinion is false. For instance, Islam believe Jesus was merely a prophet and not the Savior of the World whom atoned for our sins. Christians believe Jesus is not a prophet and that he is the Savior of the World and atoned for our sins. Both cannot be correct. So, they cannot be on equal footing. Thus, my statement has nothing to do with arrogance. It has to do with what the Godhead want and who they trust their authority to. Again, we aren't a religion. We are a Church with authority of the Godhead.
     
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    lol, IF it were true that only one was correct, what makes you think your version is the right one?

    god talks to everyone, in every culture. He uses whatever traditions are available for that culture to communicate. Some people might find that communication in Christianity. Some might have that communication in a mosque. Some might find it in meditation, not belonging to any church whatsoever. It doesn’t matter who you are, what traditions you come from, everyone will receive knowledge of god when they are far enough down their spiritual path. It takes many incarnations for the soul understand what it is.
    However, any talk of authority is nonsense, a human tool to inspire fear in the masses. God is our friend, our brother, because he is us, and we are him. Nothing has ever existed except for god. All the good and all the evil that has ever been done has been god, and it all has its purpose.
     
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    You fail to see what is unchanging about God.
    I would point out your misunderstanding about Jericho and England (Should have been Ireland). Ireland is not in the scriptures. Jericho is. God is not dealing with Ireland. They are false religions and Churches involved. They are on their own. Joshua was led by the Lord in his defeat of Jericho. Apples and Oranges.
    What is unchanging is God's Eternal Plan of Salvation. Part of the plan is free moral agency. Based on where his children are at a specific time frame and geography, certain doctrines will be taught and certain commandments will be given. Man cannot give or take away doctrines and commandments. If man has been give authority to change administrations of doctrine and commandments, then there will be some changes of administrations how they will be carried out or changed. If a doctrine or commandment is changed, it would only happen by God through a prophet he has called. Like Moses. Joseph Smith is one of those like unto Moses. And, we have a continuance of prophets from Joseph Smith to the present time.
     
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    lol, so now the Irish did not deserve god’s love either? Give me a break. And of course man can give and take away doctrines. They wrote the things in the first place. Religions are man made traditions that try to make sense of spiritual truths. They are not a good way for communicating those truths, as it becomes way too easy for the power hungry to abuse that kind of “authority”.
     
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    How could it possibly be that the difference in view concerning Jesus should affect my life OR YOURS???

    And, your view absolutely IS arrogance. Not only do you somehow think your religion should dominate other religions, but you seem to think that your religion should give you authority to impact MY life!!

    How about backing the heck off of your opinion of yourself?
     
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