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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is a serious fail.

    You can't dodge the heinous crimes carried out in the name of Christianity simply because they are not documented in the Bible.

    Besides, the slaughter of every man, woman and child at Jericho was an astounding act of terrorism carried out to support the stealing of land. And, the Bible states that god supported that. You have NO explanation for that. And, that's not the only case of wholesale slaughter that the Bible states was supported by God. There was also the slaughter of the Midianites - prisoners, men, women and children (except for virgin girls who were divided among the generals).

    You can't call that "doctrine" as derived by man. The Bible states that GOD supported and even helped with those acts.

    Who was the "prophet" through whom God spoke to initiate the slaughter of Catholics by Protestants or the slaughter of Protestants by Catholics?
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any acts concerning conquest, domination, violence, etc, are not acts of god, but of men perverting the message of god for their own greedy purposes.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    This was clearly pointed out in the Bible. True Believers just don't like the message.
     
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    It's only a fail in your own mind. The crimes as you put it of Ireland is not in the Bible. There is no indication the wars were brought on by God. No, that war is brought to you by Protestants and Catholics for political control and land. But, not by God. So, no prophet for them. Jericho was like Sodom and Gomorrah and had to be destroyed as there was no opportunity for free moral agency for the people to choose. Besides, the land was prepared by the Lord for Israel. Those people were land squatters. During OT times, the directed through the lesser law of Moses. When the Lord walked the earth, the lesser law of Moses was replaced with the higher law and commandments. The lesser law people to grow and be under less obligation than the higher law would. Actually, when Moses first came down from Mt. Sinai, he came with the higher law. When he saw that they could not live that law, the Lord told him to break up the higher law and go back to get the lesser law of Moses that would teach, train and bring the people closer the the Lord.
     
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    You and I are not that far off.

    Love is immortal!

    I always believed that and now I have the fact that her love still resides within me and our daughter.

    The love we shared was passed down from generations none of us can remember and it will continue as long as there are generations to come.

    And yes, since love is REAL it is part of our universe too.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did the grand poobah in Salt Lake deem it so?
     
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    it's said when he comes again he will be much different ....

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 19:11-16&version=KJV

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
     
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    :applause::cheerleader::alcoholic:

    Truly Funny :)
     
  9. Tejas

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    Rev 19:11 is definitely a Cyrus symbol as are Rev 16:12 and Rev 16:15

    Isaiah 63 tells us whose blood has stained the warrior of the white horse's clothing.

    Do you know whose military has a warrior on a white horse symbol ??

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    This is made up - simply a storry you attached to the Bible. The Commandments were not "lesser Law" - never referred to as such - nor was levitical law. This was "Higher Law" which came from God.

    Which was the lesser law that didn't come from God ? and is it ok to break these laws as they don't come from God.

    and what on earth should we follow today if not the commands .. or should we follow the commands but not levitical law .. cause that stuff is old fashioned .. God later changing his mind and giving us the less than lesser law.
     
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    Learning to distinguish between and among non-sequitur, coincidence, correlation and causation is an acquired skill.
     
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    Sorry for your loss.
     
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    Daniel 2

    In Daniel 2 the king of Babylon's dream about a statue of a man symbolizes the future empires that would rule over God's people, beginning with Babylon, the head of gold - arms of silver [Cyrus' Medes/Persians] - middle of brass [Greeks] - two legs of iron [Rome] the east and west Christian Roman empires. In the East, Byzantium [Second Rome] and Tsarist Russia [Third Rome]... and in the West, the Holy Roman Empire [First Reich], German monarchy [Second Reich] and Hitler's Third Reich.

    The two legs of iron have been destroyed... East = alliance of democrats and marxists destroyed the Third Rome [Tsar Nicholas II - WW1 & 1917 - Feb democrat and Oct bolshevik revolutions]... and in the west the same kind of alliance of democrats and marxists destroyed the Third Reich [Adolf Hitler - WW2.]

    After WW2 = the weak feet of leftover iron [White Christian Europeans] mixed with miry clay [third world nonwhites]... and the ten toes who are the ten kings in Rev 17:12 who only rule temporarily [like presidents] and give their power and authority to the BEAST = Edomite/NWO = Revelation's globalist Babylon.

    Beginning in 2020, there has been much talk about "liberal democracies" creating another alliance called the D10 [Democratic 10]... we can't get any more symbolically closer to the globalist mixed weak feet which Revelation calls "Babylon" [but this time around it's global]... the weak [democracies are always weak] 10 toes/10 kings... and the evil satanic Edomote/NWO elite who rule over them all. Whether or not the D10 ever manifests in reality... the obvious symbolism is there... out in the open for all to see... but only the wise will understand.

    Below is more info about D10 - note they are all liberal democracies.... which means degenerate and perverted... and they will be enemies to autocratic strongmen [Putin and Xi...etc...]

    An emerging new alliance of democracies

    December 18, 2020

    "There may be new a kid on the bloc in 2021. This week, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson indicated that he will travel next month to India with a grand project in mind. Following on comments made earlier in the year, Johnson intends to invite the leaders of India, Australia and South Korea to the 2021 summit of the Group of Seven nations, which Britain is hosting. For Johnson, it’s an early occasion to show that, even without the umbrella of the European Union, post-Brexit Britain can still be a global player — in this instance, by working “with a group of like-minded democracies to advance shared interests and tackle common challenges,” according to a statement from the prime minister’s office.

    For months, President-elect Joe Biden has talked about the need to reinforce America’s traditional alliances in the West, strengthen liberal democracies around the world and confront autocrats and illiberal strongmen. Now, we’re seeing a glimpse of what those efforts may look like...... Rasmussen nodded to the rubric raised by Johnson of the G-7 nations plus his three guests forming a new bloc of 10 major democracies. “The idea of a ‘D10’ grouping ideologically committed to combating the march of authoritarian states chimes with Joe Biden’s plan to hold a summit of democracies,” wrote the Guardian’s Patrick Wintour. “It is not clear if the idea of a D10 summit is seen as additional to the Biden summit or a substitute for the proposal.”

    The “D-10” isn’t exactly a new concept. In 2008, while working in the State Department’s policy planning team, Ash Jain and colleague David Gordon first floated the idea of a bloc of democracies.... "

    more at link

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/12/18/an-emerging-new-alliance-democracies/


    More info on D10 at these links

    Where Is the G7 Headed? | Council on Foreign Relations

    " Trump floated the idea of a Group of Eleven, comprising the D10 countries and Russia."

    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/where-g7-headed

    The G7 and NATO won't cut it: Why a new alliance is needed

    https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...nato-wont-cut-it-why-a-new-alliance-is-needed

    Forget the G-7 — Biden needs a D-10 to rally the democracies

    https://thehill.com/opinion/interna...7-biden-needs-a-d-10-rallying-the-democracies

    It's time to replace the outmoded G7 | The Japan Times

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinio...entary/g7-g20-d10-uk-russia-us-boris-johnson/

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    Nope. The Lord himself...
     
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    One more very interesting link referenced in my last post above.

    Here we see Biden lining up the symbolic D10 [ten liberal democracies] against true autocrats who are the true kings, not the weak fake 10 "kings" who are ruled by the Edomite/NWO... and again the two main autocrat kings today are Putin and Xi... true kings of the east - Rev 16:12 !!


    Biden to host ‘summit’ to rally democracies over autocrats

    By ZEKE MILLER - August 12, 2021 GMT

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden will host a virtual ”summit for democracy” in December, the White House said Wednesday, as he aims to assemble government, civil society and private sector leaders in what he has cast as a global faceoff against rising autocratic forces.

    About a year after the Dec. 9-10 event, the president plans an in-person gathering that would bring together leaders of democratic nations and other officials. The White House said this December’s summit would “galvanize commitments and initiatives across three principal themes: defending against authoritarianism, fighting corruption, and promoting respect for human rights.”......

    .... A central theme of Biden’s presidential candidacy and his first six months in office has been to redirect the nation to address what he calls a generational competition between democracies and autocracies such as Russia and China.

    “In the race for the 21st century between democracies and autocracies, we need to prove that democracies can deliver,” Biden said last week in remarks on the U.S. response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-summits-65f950b3c11f3e8c6459f549058d3e37

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    That's your opinion. It was not made up. The Lord gave this to Moses and he wrote it down. We should follow the doctrine and commandments that the Lord requires through the restored Church of Jesus Christ. In the 17th and 18th verses of the first section of the Doctrine and Covenants it says, "Wherefore, I the Lord knowing the calamity which should come upon the inhabitants of the earth, called upon my servant Joseph Smith, Jun, and spake unto him from heaven, and gave him commandments; and also gave commandments to others, that they should proclaim these things unto the world; and all this that it might be fulfilled, which was written by the prophets.
    Calamity is things like wars, pestilences, political upheaval, pandemics and so on. But it also includes spiritual upheavals, religious intolerance and doctrinal confusion. With a prophet always on the earth, we can know what we should be doing and what to follow. Today, Russel M. Nelson is the present day prophet and we should follow him and his lead.
     
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    Which one?
     
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    Much of what you stated is not from the Bible - so you can't claim "the Lord gave this to Moses" based on the Bible.

    What other text do you have that I do not know about .. OHHH the newest prophet J. Smith .. right .. Ranks right up there with Muhammad. So Joe got the inside scoop - from some angel - same as Muhammad cept Angel that Joe was speaking to sounds a whole lot like new covenant theology.

    Was it Joe that founded that ? - or someone else .. worth a google perhaps.

    Read some of the J.Smith stuff long time ago ... didn't impress .. seemed too canned .. just didn't get the "inspiration" .

    So then - which laws to which we should adhere ? The Upper .. the lesser .. or somewhere in between ?
     
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    Only one
     
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    The Bible is correct as far as it is translated correctly. There was much left out. A lot you can read in one of our cannonized books of scripture, The Pearl of Great Price. As far as the lesser and greater priesthood, that's in the Book of Hebrews in the New Testament. Enjoy. As for the Book of Mormon, it was prophesied in the Old Testament, Ezekiel and Isaiah. The Doctrine and Covenants is for our time. And, we have the spoken words of our present day prophets and apostles as well. These are the latter days, the days of the restitution of all things as prophesied in the New Testament. Unfortunately, Muhammad didn't live in the last days and so his direction isn't for us.
     
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    There are at least 1000 of them and every sect insists their’s is the only one and their interpretations are the only real ones. Somebody must be wrong. See what I mean?
     
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    From what I have read and seen regarding LDS history, Smith was a grifter from the get go. He used seer stones at an early age and set himself up as a gypsy like fortune teller in Palmyra upstate New York just east of Rochester. He was arrested there for sourcery but beat the case. Then he claimed to have been given a bunch of gold plates by a guy (Angel) named Moroni but he somehow lost them and then wrote a book which he claims was copied from these mysterious plates given to him by this mysterious Moroni. Then he kept changing the rules claiming that god told him to. One of those rules allowed him to choose all the best looking women married or not and take them for himself. He was driven from one place to another picking up wives and workers along the way until people got wise to him and ran him out of town then he’d split to another place until finally a mob of pissed off suckers finally cornered him and killed him in Missouri. Then Brigham Young took over and led what was left of Joe’s cultists and headed for Salt Lake. Young and his gag were then involved in a brutal slaughter of a bunch of Native Americans shortly after they posted up in Utah but they got away with it because back then, white people were allowed to murder Native Americans with impunity. Since then they have continued to change the rues when it became politically expedient and cut polygamy out of their program. Again their elected leader talked to god or Moroni or whoever was in charge then. They devised magic underwear and other stuff too. They did very well in Utah, managed to get control of all governmental agencies around 1910 and now are one of the richest profit making entities in the US. Nice work if you can get it. Along with the Catholics, Scientologist and some of these huge phony Protestant super churches they are the kings of rich religious scammers on earth today.
     
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    Amen brother! Our God has given us a light to see and vessel to bear.
     
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    There's only one Jesus Christ who is Lord, Savior and Redeemer who atoned for our sins...
     
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    Our Father lives. Jesus is the Christ, Savior of the World. Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God. The Book of Mormon is true. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only Church that has the authority in all of our Father and Son's work which is to bring to past the immortality and eternal life of man. Russel M. Nelson is the Prophet of God today. I know these all to be true by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost. Your lies have no power over me...
     
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