2 Fool-proof ways to have sex without getting pregnant

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Pro-choicers have made a big deal about women needing abortion when their contraceptives fail. They believe women should be able to have all the sex they want without any risk of pregnancy whatsoever.

    This despite the fact that a simple condom is 99% effective, if used properly.

    But there are at least two contraceptive methods available to women which are 100% effective in preventing pregnancy. Any woman can utilize these methods, and get to have sex without any risk of pregnancy.
    So what are these contraceptive methods? Well, I will explain below.

    #1 Get Your Tubes Tied
    Abortion supporters make pregnancy sound so terrible. Which woman in her right mind would choose to go through with a pregnancy?
    If you absolutely know you don't want a baby, look no further than to get your tubes tied. The sooner the better. After a minor little surgery you'll never have to worry about using contraceptives again.


    #2 Non-Vaginal Intercourse
    You know, there's not just one way of having sex. Your sexual partner doesn't necessarily have to go in the front end. Just keep it out of your vagina and you can't get pregnant. That simple.


    #3 Abstinence
    You don't have to avoid sex altogether. But the more sex you have the more likely it will result in a pregnancy. Using some contraceptive options combined with minimizing the frequency of sexual intercourse will reduce your chances of getting knocked up down to a tiny improbability.


    It would take a dum dum not to know how to prevent pregnancy. So then what excuse do you pro-choice women have now, hmmm? If you get pregnant it is your own doing.
     
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    Are you a gynecologist? I am not sure what your point is... Are you saying women shouldn't have frequent sex ???

    Are you referencing anal intercourse as a contraceptive method?

    There are many other types of contraceptives available.
     
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    And if women have an abortion it's their own doing and none of your business.
     
  4. Anders Hoveland

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    What gets me is pro-choice women know how to prevent pregnancy and they still want to get abortions!
    It's almost like abortion has turned into just another form of birth control. But there's a little life in there.
     
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    This is great information Anders. Indeed those are some good tips on how to avoid unwanted pregnancies.

    It seems perhaps that the pro-choice voices of reason are being effective in communicating that good sexual education is one way of reducing abortions and unwanted pregnancies in general.

    Good on you buddy!
     
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    Wait a sec here....first you place all responsibility on women....then tell them they need to use a condom?

    Just so you understand....MEN wear the condom on their Penis.
     
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    Abortion IS birth control....and has been for thousands of years.....


    Why are you so obsessed with women's sex lives???
     
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    If a man tells a woman he has had a vasectomy when he hasn't, whose responsibility is it if the woman gets pregnant by him. Just interested in what anti abortionists think.
     
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    Tubal ligations are not 100% effective.


    Sperm deposited NEAR the vagina can make it to the target.


    Gee, how many times have we heard that one? But for your information, it only takes one time to result in pregnancy. It's not the kind of thing that practice makes perfect.

    So, this post is a perfect example of why we need better sex ed and maybe even sex ed for adults. Here's the highlight of this post: "If you get pregnant it is your own doing."
     
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    Educate yourself. There is no reason to get your tubes tied, there's a (relatively) new procedure (that's been available for at LEAST 5 years, and possibly longer), where women can get their tubes PLUGGED, and it's much less invasive (they go in vaginally with no incisions of any kind, and the patient is in and out in 15 minutes). That said it is a PERMANENT thing. This is for women who NEVER want to have a/another child.

    Regardless, that was not your point, you're trying to make an anti-abortion argument, and you might as well talk to a brick wall. Roe is settled law and will never change. A clump of 8 cells is not, and will never be, a human being.
     
  11. Anders Hoveland

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    Unfortunately women don't get abortions when it's just a clump of 8 cells.

    Now if a woman wants to take the day after pill right after having impulsively engaged in risky sexual intercourse, well that's far far more preferable than waiting 6 weeks when she finally figures out she did indeed get knocked up.
     
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    Maybe the title of this thread should have been "Assuming there's a way to have sex without getting pregnant, what need is there for abortions?"
    This would cover about 90% of abortions that are performed— all those purely elective ones.
     
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    Plan B has only very recently been approved for over the counter sales. It's still unavailable for those who can't afford it, though. And just in case you are thinking it's an abortifacient, it isn't.
     
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    Why stop at abortion.

    If human beings acted ideally in every situation, we wouldn't have wars, homelessness, widespread famine, treatable diseases allowed to infect thousands, a declining environment due to daily doses of millions of pounds of pollution. We wouldn't have political scandals, murderers, rapists, white collar executive crimes that wipe out people's savings, and oh dear, the list goes on forever.

    The point here is, it's not fair for you to scold women for not behaving according to what you believe is ideal in every sexual situation they encounter because this is not a requirement that is realistic or applied to anyone else.

    Knowledge is knowing that what you said would indeed prevent abortions.

    Wisdom is knowing that expecting people to behave perfectly while avoiding accidents and never making mistakes is a foolish path to tread.
     
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    Two new drugs on the market to keep from getting pregnant.

    Sulfadenial and Noassitol.
     
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    They stop at abortion because they can target women who they fear and hate....

    They desperately avoid all those other issues caused mainly by men and their own lives that are less than ideal.
     
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    Do you know the typical use effectiveness rate of abstinence as a birth control method? In typical use, it doesn't come close to 100% effectiveness.
     
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    As usual the author of the OP places all responsibility onto the female, perhaps if he looked and learned a little he would find that there is a male contraceptive procedure that is 100% effective, takes 45mins to perform and is 100% reversible .. but hey that won't do, we don't want men having to miss out on having sex for fun do we :roll:

    http://www.newmalecontraception.org/vasalgel/

    This is just another of those typical threads by this person, no real thought gone into it just another attack on females.
     
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    My bosses sister had her tubes tied...but eventually got pregnant anyway. Its not fail safe. .
     
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    It does not just have to be one contraceptive measure. Two, three, or even four of them can be combined.

    For example, if the first contraceptive measure is 90% effective, the next is 85% effective, and the third is 60% effective, if they are used simultaneously together their combined effectiveness will be 99.4%.
    the algebra to figure that out is 1-(1-0.9)(1-0.85)(1-0.6)

    So... a woman could make sure her partner was using a condom, be on the pill, use a diaphragm with spermicide, and sometimes go oral/anal with her partner instead, just to help cut down on the risk of pregnancy.

    If any one of these doesn't work for her, she can substitute another contraceptive strategy instead. There are so many to choose from.
     
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    Why should she? Why should any woman go through so much?...if she gets pregnant she can have an abortion.....
     
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    Exactly. Pure laziness.


    The man has responsibility too, but the female has more, because she will be the one carrying the baby if any sperm gets through.
     
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    So?


    How many laws do you want passed that'll cure EVERYONE'S laziness?
     
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    As I said, you completely ignore the responsibility of the male and only now when your blatant omission is highlighted do you make some token gesture at adding in the males .. even then though you have to try to pass this off as nothing, instead, again placing all the responsibility and blame onto the female.

    It is also noted that you cherry pick the part of my response you think you have an answer for while ignoring the rest .. but there again that is nothing new from you.
     
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    Again placing all the responsibility onto the woman, are men so thick that they need a woman to tell them to use a condom? . .I hope, as you are so concerned with unwanted pregnancies that you have had your tubes injected so to rule out any chance of contraceptive failure .. have you?

    typical of pro-lifers, not only do they want to punish women for having casual sex but also place the responsibility of contraception solely onto them, just so men can (*)(*)(*)(*) around as much as they like.

    I'm still wondering how you campaign to kill disabled newborns is coming along BTW.
     

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