218 Reasons NOT To Vote For Obama

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    twinkyfl1 New Member

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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    If Obama wins another term it'll be the end of America as a super power.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I think you're thinking Ron "Shrink government by 50% and bring us back to Gold Standard" Paul.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    This thread is what is wrong with elections these days, stop talking about the other guy and tell us why we should vote for you (or your guy). You copy and pasted a link showing the former, now provide 100 reasons why anyone should vote for Romney.
     
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    People says this about every presidential term I can remember. Does anyone know the definition of hyperbole?
     
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    Romney would trade all 218 of those for just ONE reason to vote FOR him.
     
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    That many reasons and more not to vote for hussein is precisely the reason why so many people vote for him. You see most stooges can't count that high to begin with, but they have no problem counting up the dollar value of their foodstamps.
     
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    Obama has not set us on a good path and has actually accomplished little more than dumping a bunch of money into the economy. Anybody could do that.

    Now you can list excuses all day long about why Obama has failed but the buck stops with him. There's nothing wrong with saying that he really has no path laid out other than blaming people for why he's not getting anything done. If he was a republican I'd want him out also, I voted against Bush his second run because I didn't like his long-term plan for the country. Obama doesn't even have a solid plan at this point and after 4 years that's just unacceptable.
     
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    AshenLady New Member Past Donor

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    Once a man gets lots of money, then they go on for power. Romney wants to be prez for the power trip, and nothing more or less. He couldn't care less about the USA. He just wants to sit in the oval office and try his hand at playing Mr. Prez.

    *shudder*
     
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    Looked like the vast bulk of them were simply because of people he appointed.

    Some reasons to vote for Obama:


    o Turned around an economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month
    o 30 straight months of private sector employment growth.
    o 12 straight quarters of GDP growth
    o 60+% increase in the stock markets since taking office
    o Got Osama bin Laden.
    o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
    o Got Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
    o Got Anwar al-Aulaqi
    o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
    o First president to decrease spending in a year in decades
    o Reduced the deficit his first full year in office
    o Got us out of the "mistaken" war in Iraq
    o Stock markets up 100% since bottom of the recession in 2009
    o 4.6 million additional private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
    o Improved US approval rating abroad
    o Oil production up for the first time in decades.
    o Passed health care reform that will provide coverage to tens of millions of Americans
    o Employment rate dropped from over 10% to 8.1%
    o Passed financial regulation reform to prevent another housing bubble fiasco.
    o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history.
    o On budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
    o US domestic oil use decreasing
    o Net creation of the number of people employed and employed in the private sector

    I guess I could just add on the list of his appointments to get it to 218, but it seems petty.
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    You could go through Bush's 8 years and nitpick numbers to make him sound like a good President also. The fact is that unemployment is higher today then when he took office, our debt has skyrocketed, and our foreign affairs are just as bad as they've ever been with Iran about to go off and China getting pushy, our foreign officials being killed and so on.

    Obama has not had a net positive effect on the country no matter how you spin the numbers.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any increase left over today in unemployment all occurred in the very first month Obama took office.

    Why do you blame Obaaaaaaama for the Great Recession?
     
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    Never blamed him for it. I am blaming him for having no direction in which way our country is going and how to get us out of the mess. 4 years of relatively similar situations shows this. If he said he had some grand plan for unemployment and paying down the debt, and how long it will take, that would be different but he has no such plan. He can't even get a budget passed.
     
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    If you are not blaming Obama for the Great Recession, what is your point about emphasizing that the UR today is higher than when he took office?

    The only reason that is so is because when he took office, the economy was losing 700,000+ jobs a month which was sending the UR skyrocketing.

    I has not been at all a "relatively similar situation" over the past 4 years.

    When Obama took office, the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The housing market was destroyed and the economy was headed straight for a depression.

    But now the economy has been growing steadily for almost three straight years, the private sector has added more jobs every month for 30 months in a row, stock markets are up 100% from their recession lows, the unemployment rate has fallen from above 10% to 8.1%, and over 4.6 million additional private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

    And this despite an obstructionist Tea Party Republican party whose stated top priority is not to work with the president to improve the economy but get him out of office.

    The situation was radically different when Obama took office than it is today.
     
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    The unemployment rate has only dropped because people are giving up looking for work. The plans that Obama put into action were simple extensions of what Bush had already started, bailouts, and spending. How you can attribute that to anything that came from Obama is hilarious.

    What are Obama's plans for the future? More spending? Whats his plan for anything really? Does he plan to get a budget passed, reduce our budget, and how does Obama create so many jobs but keeps the unemployment rate so high? Hasn't he set a new record for unemployment over 8% for like 42 straight months?
     
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    Hate to break your heart but it will be the end of america as a superpower with EITHER of these two clowns in office.were screwed either way how the election turns out in the fact we have to choose between Hitler-Romney,or Stalin-Obama.
     
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    Here are equally as good reasons why things will be no different whatsoever with Romney in office.

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...mitt-romney-is-a-vote-for-the-new-world-order


    oh and think there is any difference between the two? think again.


    http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...ck-obama-and-mitt-romney-are-exactly-the-same




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true at all. 4.6 million new jobs have been added in the private sector since Jan 2010.
     
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    Then why is the unemployment rate going up?
     
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    It's not. It's down from 10% to 8.1%.
     
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    It went from 8.1 to 8.3 last job report. That seems like its going up to me.
     
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    I must have missed that. Could you link to the report you are talking about? Thank you.
     
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    Real economic growth during the recovery – now three years old – has averaged 2.2%, less than half of the historic average for post recession rebounds.

    There are 1.1 million fewer people on non-farm payrolls today than when President Obama took office.

    The unemployment rate has been above 8% for 42 consecutive months, the longest period of sustained high unemployment since the Great Depression.

    Passage of an $862 billion stimulus was promised to keep the unemployment rate from rising above 8%, compared to a projected 9% peak without the stimulus. Instead, the unemployment rate peaked at 10% in October 2008, and exceeded 9% for more than two years.

    Absent the stimulus, the unemployment rate was projected to fall below 7% during 2012. Yet, last month, it rose to 8.3%, in spite of 7.5 million people leaving the labor force, and therefore no longer being counted as unemployed.

    If the labor force participation rate had remained unchanged, the unemployment rate would now be above 11%.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/charleskadlec/2012/08/13/president-obamas-smashing-success-story-greatly-increasing-the-power-of-government/
     
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    Your article is a month and half old and out of date.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

    And there was never any promise to keep unemployment below 8%. That is simply right wing propaganda created mythology.

    Again, why are you blaming Obaaaaama for the Great Recession?
     
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    I'm saying he doesn't have a good enough plan to carry us through any recovery. He still has far too many bad statistics in regards to the economy because he has no solid policies to deal with the problems.

    The numbers don't lie.
     

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