22 Israelis murdered 180 wounded during the last two months

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nor does Oslo forbid resistance against Israeli theft and aggression.
     
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    So when an Arab is going to stab a child in Jerualem is ok?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    children should not be targeted for acts of resistance against Israeli Occupation, racism, theft, and aggression.
     
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    This was one of the victims of the current terror wave that Jerusalem and the West Bank are experiencing, and since you dont support it, then I guess that you dont spport the current attacks by Arabs in Jerusalem and the West Bank, right?
     
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    i don't support military acts upon children.
     
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    So you dont support the rendom attacks that Arabs are doing today in Jerusalem and the West Bank, correct?
     
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    as I said, I don't support attacks on children.
     
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    Which, as I stated, is still one village in a bigger picture. Slowly but surely, the Palestinians who live in the West Bank are being surrounded and cordoned off by continued Israeli settlement expansion. This link explains it.


    Which, as Ronstar stated, was a grave error. The continued settlement expansion and growth is impeding peace negotiations and making a Palestinian state less and less viable by the day.


    I can't find the link to it. Can you send me the link to that research?
     
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    Sadly, conflicts of this type invariably victimize helpless innocents
    Fwiw
    There is an enormous disparity between the numbers of jewish children being killed vs the number of Palestinian children being killed.
     
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    I already replied to you and your latest link, read it please.

    Oslo was a mistake, you right, but still you cant now in some way complain about the existance/expension of the settlements when clearly there is no agreement that forbids it.

    I only have the Hebrew version of it, and couldnt find the English version of the research. I will keep looking for you.
     
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    So Israel should apologize when it actually developes things that would protect it's citizens, like Iron Dome?
     
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    Do you have any basis to make the above statement which is grossly disconnected from my posting now, or at any time?

    If not, you appear to be putting absurd words into my mouth in order to discredit me.
    But in the case of such an obvious falsehood
    This reflects the worst on he who spews it
    Whether by intent to deceive and slander
    , or perhaps from being unable to decifer meanings that are separate from emotional preconceptions
    and reflexive defensiveness.
     
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    I am guessing it is an attempt to pretend that more Jewish children were killed before the Iron Dome - certainly the number of Palestinian children killed by Israel has increased since they got their dome.
     
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    You stated:
    The small amount of Israeli children that been killed is thanks to the defensive technology that Israel produces, while Hamas does not produce such technology for the Gazans, but on the contrary.
     
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    So what did i say that led you to conclude i have any feelings what so ever about iron dome?

    Btw
    As i understand it... Although not well informed i admit
    The rockets coming from gaza are extraordinarily low tech
    And have little guidance or accuracy
    And by in large tiny explosive charges
    Which is imo the main reason that these attacks cause so few casualties

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
     
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    I didnt say that you have any feelings what so ever about the Iron Dome. I only mentioned Iron Dome as one of the defensive technology that Israel produced over the years for the protection of it's civilians.
     
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    You replied to my post by saying

    Which seems to say i think israel should apologize for using iron dome tech to protect its self
     
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    The apology is referring about Israel which is trying to defend it's citizens, and not about a spesific technology.
    When I mentioned Iron Dome is just mentioning one example of defensive technology, but as I said, the apology is referring aobut Israel which is trying to defend it's citizens.
     
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    And there is nothing i said about it which would imply i think israel should apologize for defending itself
    With iron dome
     
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    The why you wrote:
    I mean, yes more casualties were from the Arab side, but the reason behind it, is because Israel is defending itself, while the Arabs do not develop any kind of defensive technology, despite the financial support they are getting.
     
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    Israel has not won a decisive victory in war since its founding. Without victory and the surrender of the enemy there is no peace.

    Sadly, that is just the way it is.
     
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    So in the six days war, for example, Israel didnt get decisive victory?
     
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    That is as close as you can get, and very unusual in the history of war. Saddat made a lasting peace even though his nation was not forced to surrender and suffer military occupation.

    Too soon to know if this peace will endure. The last Egyptian government was a serious threat to Israel.
     
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    So there was a decisive victory in war since it's founding.

    Right, but still the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel is still continue to endure, despite the last Egyptian government.
    Today the peace treaty doesnt seems to be in risk under Al-Sisi's reign. He has bigger problems in Sinai that needs a security coordination with Israel.
     
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    The peace with Egypt a the singular achievement of Israel since its founding. It came from the virtual capture of the Egyptian Army in the Sinai,

    It will probably an even more decisive military blow to induce any other Islamic enemy to make peace with Israel. There are no more Sadats.

    The victory that led to the creation of Israel was far from decisive. A decisive victory over even one enemy was probably impossible a that time.

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    It did not end the war.
     
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