25 Years of Failed Global Warming Predictions

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  1. Zorro

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    Nonsense. An additional 100 ppm of CO2 definitely does not cause asthma or other illnesses. Air pollution can exacerbate asthma, but not CO2. When you exhale, your breath has 40,000 ppm of CO2.
     
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    Never considered that fine point of CO2 in exhaled air, Zman. Excellent, truly. Exhaled air is obviously also a function of how long you may have held your breath. Just imagine, all that "pollution" and "contamination" building up, and up, and up, and up..... until you die, from "pollution" and "contamination" and "dirty air."

    Like O.M.G.

    Nobody has ever suffocated in a small bedroom, after a night of rebreathing all the air over and over, have they? Clearly the concentration of oxygen decreased substantially just as the concentration of CO2 increased substantially. Oh the "pollution"....

    Climate Change Sharia Members should propose a carbon tax on breathing, you know. And those darned athletes will really have to pony up for all their "pollution".
     
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    Life gives you what you concentrate on. Why are you concentrating only on fault finding, blame and the negatives?
     
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    Oh YES, YES XploreR! Let's all go to a Hate Trump rally, where we can concentrate on burning the American flag, after ******** on it of course, break windows, smash cars, punch Trump supporters in the face, demand climate change obeisance, after driving hundreds of miles to "save the environment" and "fight fossil fuel", hang Trump in effigy, call for his assassination, and do all those other loving and POSITIVE things you Democratic Sharia Party members so enjoy.....
     
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    They are peer reviewed.
     
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    There were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. The fossilized remains of both don't lie. Something cause the Earth to warm to that extent, man didn't exist and the fossils for oil were still walking around and growing from the ground. So what caused the Earth to warm that much? We know through indisputable fact that there were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. You can't rule out that the same process isn't happening again and nothing we can do will matter anyway.

    Deforestation is likely a driver of any man made warming far more than any emissions. An area the size of England, Wales and Scotland (50 million acres) is cut down every year around the world. Trees are nature's carbon sinks. When that much carbon sink is removed every year, they are fighting a losing battle by simply controlling emissions. Unless the main thrust of climate change "control" if that's possible, is putting a stop to deforestation, don't bother us with trivial pursuits.
     
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    Some are from " Energy and Environment". Which was an online journal with little to no peer review process and a next to non existent impact factor. Some are from known denialists some actually do not debunk climate change or any part of it but are used as speck filler and please do not even go there will the completely hilariously debunked ***** from Willie Soon......
     
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    Yes and what was atmospheric CO2 doing then? What part of the Milankovitch cycle were we in? Was there a period of large scale volcanism? What was the solar output!
     
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    And?
     
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    All good arguments demonstrating how little man has to do with this, and how little Man's impact would be in breaking our collective banks changing it.

    It's the new home of Socialism, and we see through it, comrade.
     
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    Because I'm pretty sure the ecoleftpriests ignored this excellent post, I'm reposting it.
     
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    Peer reviewed is no good when they don't agree with you....got it.
     
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    Aw. Your religion is being attacked, so you try some ridiculous attack on your perception of someone else's religion?

    Pathetic.

    Let's accept your asinine premise: that "the religious right" believes that "their God" is gonna destroy the Earth (most don't: "this Earth will never pass away") - but let's say you're correct.

    Are those who believe such things looking to dip their fingers into my wallet to pay for avoiding such a fate like your religion is?
     
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    Most of what I see written above is that predictions are moving SLOWER than SOME argued - not that they aren't happening at all.

    Given that, I would think that an honest response to climate change would be, "We need to continue to study and evaluate," not that it isn't happening at all. I would call someone who disavowed the POSSIBILITY of human influenced climate change way premature on that evaluation.

    And given that the general thrust of prevention is cleaner air and cleaner water for humanity, and that most industry (excepting fossil fuel oriented industry) is moving forward with greener business models, I can only say to those who state categorically that humans cannot aversely impact our environment ... WTF is your problem?

    A wind turbine tips over - damage is minimal.
    An oil tanker runs ashore - big, expensive damage.
    A solar panel fails - damage is minimal.
    An oil platform starts leaking - big, expensive problem.
    A wind farm is attacked by terrorist - damage is minimal.
    An oil refinery is attacked by terrorist - big, expensive damage.
    A solar farm goes tits up - damage is minimal.
    A nuclear power plant goes tits up - catastrophic damage to the environment and health for decades.

    Wind shortage? The sun disappears? The tides stop? Not very likely events.
    Oil shortage? Wars over fossil fuels? Ground-water contamination? Spills from oil tankers and oil rigs? All proven and likely events.

    Acting as if climate change is influenced negatively by human activity has many positive outcomes.
    Acting as if climate change is not influenced negatively by humans - lots of negatives.
     
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    An ecolyte to that AGW Priesthood squeaks his objection.
     
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    All that post does is point out how minimal the potential energy is within each component of solar energy infrastructure, and - by extension - how expensive it would be to match the energy output of the current form of energy supply.
     
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    Early combustion engines could barely move a car. Early coal plants were inefficient and incredibly dirty. Infrastructure for oil production took decades to get online.

    Solar power can be harnessed through passive design changes to homes (I know, I lived in one with a $5 dollar a month heating bill).
    Solar power is now available through Tesla's roof tiles and is become less expensive and more efficient by the year.
    We've barely started to work on the power that can be generated by the ocean's tide. Won't happen overnight - but the tech is there - we just need to build the infrastructure to support it. Supporting fossil fuel infrastructure is like saying, "but horses are so good at pulling things ...".
     
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    This has nothing to do with my post. It has to do with the potential energy within the fuel itself.
     
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    There's no proof it isn't. Deforestation is likely a driver of any man made warming far more than any emissions. An area the size of England, Wales and Scotland (50 million acres) is cut down every year around the world. Trees are nature's carbon sinks. When that much carbon sink is removed every year, they are fighting a losing battle by simply controlling emissions. Unless the main thrust of climate change "control" if that's possible, is putting a stop to deforestation, don't bother us with trivial pursuits.
     
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    A Week Of Surfing On A Sea Of Liberal Tears. “The big event was when President Trump did something that has caused the liberal elite and the conservative Wormtongue contingent to wet their collective Underoos. He chose democracy, science, and normal Americans over the elitist twits of the pagan climate cult.”
     
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    "John Kerry admits at COP-21 that US emissions cuts accomplish nothing for climate"



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    I can't count all the lies and misinformation contained in your post, and although I'm a liberal and a Democrat, nothing you credit us with here is ANYTHING I would ever countenance or support or participate with in any way. It's hard to imagine how anyone could get such a totally distorted view of me or others like me. It's the extremity of views like you express so eloquently here that led our nation into Civil War in 1861. I only hope there aren't sufficient numbers sharing your attitude to drag us into such a massive failure of humanity again. That is really ugly.
     

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