5,522 people have died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in Scotland according to Public H

5,522 people have died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in Scotland according to Public Health Scotland


https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/1...scotland-according-to-public-health-scotland/


The entire population of Scotland is 5.5 million. Extrapolated to the US would mean VAERS is under reported.


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The most up to date figures published by PHS and within the report released by on the 23rd June 2021, and they reveal that between the 8th December 2020 and the 11th June 2021 a total number of 5,522 people died within 28 days of having a dose of a Covid-19 vaccine.

 

From the link:

This equates to an average of 920 deaths occurring every month due to the Covid-19 vaccines in Scotland alone. Outnumbering the average number of people who have died of Covid-19 in Scotland by 866 per month

It would seem to me that if far more people are dying from the vaccine than from the virus itself, it's time for someone to say, "Houston, we have a problem."

 

What is your take away when you read this article? I am not familiar with the source BUT I will take the numbers at face value.

 

Scotland records their Vax deaths. The CDC recently claimed they will no longer record them.

 

OK, that seems to be a round about way to present that issue. Why not just post an article that reports on the CDC no longer recording it and a comment if available from the CDC on why they changed the policy. I think the takeaway people may get from this article, even though they present NO conclusions other than some numbers, is that vaccinations are responsible for many deaths.

 

very interesting numbers but just like the lack of facts regarding Covid, this too is just a number tossed out.

With Covid they do not report in the news how many were elderly or infirmed? How many had co-morbidities

With this report, we are left to assume that 100% of the deaths were due to the vaccine, not a heart attack, an accident etc.

 

Yes, people still die. The vaccine doesn't make you immortal.

As for your source

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Back to what I've said before: If it's in print the trumpers and anti-vaxers consider it to be the truth.

 

Good to know, worthy of a quote.

 

Did you notice that your source only provided an image from the document and no direct link. Could it be because they wanted to prevent people from seeing the rest of the paragraph?

https://beta.publichealthscotland.scot/media/8183/21-06-23-covid19-publication_report.pdf;

By contrast, the COVID deaths they request specifically exclude any underlying conditions, a blatant attempts to present the lowest possible figure for COVID deaths.

Note that none of this proves anything meaningful either way, only the gross dishonesty on your chosen source on the topic.

 

That might actually be true, if, and only if, they were getting the same vaccine by the same manufacturer.

So, are they?

Yes, they're all STUPID-19 vaccines, but they're all different.

 

Another fake report posted by Hoosier. A man had the AZ vaccine 8 days ago and got run and killed today. Hence, by the logic of the OP, the death was caused by the AZ vaccine as he died within 28 days of having a Covid-19 vaccine

 

Got it wrong. They are no longer reporting vaccinated that catch Covid.

 

It is really hard for me to comment on this. I have read this screen shot 3 times and still don't really understand the point you are trying to make or context of this document. It seems to be 1/2 a page out of a much larger document or study. I do not understand the working of covid test kit well enough to grasp the differences in the range of cycles. I am a little skeptical when I see vague wording like "A study funded by the French government showed that even at 35 cycles, the false positivity rate is AS HIGH AS 97%". Can you link the full document? Medical science is really a weak area and there are tons of people on this forum like @CenterField that could better address this issue but I will take a look if you provide the links. It seems you have issue with the CDC counting vaccination positives at 28 cycles or less. Has the CDC said why they are choosing to do this? Do you think this is leading to a false analysis because they are over counting cases in vaccinated people? If the CDC is using covid test kits in a way that is below manufacturer recommended standards they should explain why they are doing so.

My final question is why are you taking this approach to presenting this information? What you just posted seems fairly unrelated the the number of deaths in Scotland 28 days after vaccination. I am finding it hard to put it all together. If the CDC is doing something nefarious you should just present that. The original article made no mention of any of this.

 

Did you check that website out? Look at the home page https://dailyexpose.co.uk/ not a single anti-vax article to be found. The name comes off like its some sort of news paper but its not. Its a conspiracy theory blog. And while you're doing that, check the government source they cite.

 

In another thread;

apexofpurple said; ''If Pres Trump had been spending the last several months urging people to get vaccinated instead of rehashing the same claims about election fraud which he just wont [cant] prove I bet we'd be at like 80% vaccinated by now.''

Hoosier8 response; ''Maybe if democrats had not been sowing doubt about the vaccines eh?''

Question: In this thread, who's sowing doubt about the vaccines, and with fake news?

Hypocrisy?????????

 

I note firstly that the claims for deaths in Scotland are extrapolated from figures obtained via UK Health Authorities because Scottish Health Authorities apparently don't retain/collect that data. However such extrapolation is only accurate if and only if allowances are made for the relevant variables. And what this 'news' report does is fail to allow for the following;

1) The large majority of people in Scotland have been vaccinated. By default then the majority of all deaths in Scotland from all causes (even random accidents) will be higher than amongst the vaccinated population than vaccinated. This is a statistical fact.
2) A much higher proportion of elderly people have been vaccinated compared to the general population. And statistically the elderly are prone to many more underlying health conditions than which are far more likely to be causative of death than the vaccine itself or at the least significantly contribute to their deaths. This is also a statistical fact.
3) The death rate reported don't differentiate between deaths directly linked by official (Coroners or Doctors) reports to the vaccine and all other causes of death.

So, based on the above and until such time as the news outlet responsible actually does crunch these numbers correctly and link all sources used for their data the report is both grossly inaccurate and deliberately sensationalist. Given all of the above the newspaper has also failed to adhere to basic journalistic practices and is therefore guilt of poor journalism. This means that on this issue at least, if not others it is not a reliable or accurate source of news.

 

I won't even waste my time looking into this. Likely, disingenuous, misinterpreted, and/or junk science.

 

Forget about the source - you acknowledge that the base claim of the article is true don't you? According to official Scottish government sources, 5,522 people HAVE died within 28 days of having a COVID vaccine.

 

Died from what?

 

I have no idea, but that doesn't change the fact that according to official Scottish government sources, 5,522 people HAVE died within 28 days of having a COVID vaccine.

 

No, it is the only thing that supports the claim that the vaccine killed thousands of people. That is the topic of the discussion.

People die, yes. Heart disease, cancer, accidents etc kill people every day. However, its fake news to claim that Covid vaccine killed them.

This is what the OP link claims, and its fake news. You can still believe it if you like.

The OP source claims they died due to the Covid vaccine, which is pure BS.

The OP article flat out says they died of Covid vaccine, and you have no idea...........typical.

 

Half of Scotland, hell, half of ANYWHERE could drop dead after the getting the vaccine and all you'll hear is the inane mantra "Correlation does not imply causation".

 

Yes, but I was really referring to the headline, which I agree doesn't match the language further down the article. But it begins by just stating facts - then it goes downhill.