6 Years Later, Katrina Victims Fight FEMA Debts

Yeah, a 6% hit to the economy of the state might sting a little, but potatoes aren't Idaho's #1 export.

 

Meth? off to the Wiki I go, never knew I'd be learning the Idaho tonight... HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho

 

In the real world, (I speak only of the United States), because I could give a rat's ass about other countries, they don't like us, they don't want us, so (*)(*)(*)(*) em'. The United States has opportunities beyond anything the world has ever seen, which is the number one reason for the mass of immigration, legal or illegal. So whining about what you have or don't is irrelevant. If you can't make it happen as a US citizen, then you are the only one to blame, not the rest of the country.

Here, watch the video and get educated about our wealthy poor who live in the USA:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkebmhTQN-4"]Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Rich Man, Poor Man - YouTube[/ame]

As far as your silly attempt to put Garden Valley in the same disaster prone category as coastal cities like New Orleans, is laughable. Natural disasters happen anywhere on the planet, but you increase your odds of it happening expotentionally when you chose to live in places like New Orleans.

Below is a website that may enlighten you of the paradise I live in.

http://www.usa.com/garden-valley-id-natural-disasters-extremes.htm

 

like i said, no place is safe from natural disasters, your posts are just projections of nationalistic ignorance that don't seem to understand history or have a clue about the inheritance the united states received from europe and great cities like new orleans

the video you posted from the heritage foundation is little more than political rhetoric that once again, ignores the reality of some people's difficulties affording gasoline

could there be a bigger whiner than you? doubtful

 

OMG, so you think it is everyone's responsibility to support the stupid people that chose to live in high risk areas. You are from another planet indeed.

You ignore reality, and that is what gets people like you into so many bad situations. Please don't move to Idaho, we don't want any whiners, only survivors.

BTW, please give me an example of where you consider me to be whining. I want the rest of the forum to witness, your silliness.

 

no and i didn't say that at all, try reading what i wrote instead of listening to the voices in your head

 

You were defending those that choose to live in high risk areas, and my response was, how are others responsible? Their choice, their consequences. This thread is about the idiots that stayed behind before Katrina hit land. Mayor Nagin, who failed by letting NO city buses flood, instead of moving the poor to safe ground.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477179/posts

Still waiting for an example of my whining you claim I did?

 

You see a good portion of those "idiots" were people that had no control over their situation. Hospital patients in the middle illness that made them too sick to move. Those that were in care of others that did not have the capacity to move themselves. When your posts suggest this survival of the fittest nonsense dystopia entirely anti civilization Ayn Rand wet dream, it makes me think that you are completely out of touch with reality.

You see you can't without looking like a cruel human champion your personal responsibility mantra for the cancer sick, the retarded, the assisted living elderly... in other words those that for whatever reason had neither the resources or the capacity to flee.

 

Please don't fill in words I did not say. The sick, elderly, or those without the capacity should be first priority. The city and state leaders were warned well ahead of time before Katrina hit land, and they failed their duties as leaders. So again, don't assume I don't care about people, there were a good deal of people that chose to stay behind because they thought they could ride out the storm. With choices comes consequences.

It was a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up mess starting with the mayor and again, the idiots that chose to stay behind.

 

But when you speak in absolutes you leave yourself open. "This thread is about the idiots who stayed behind", where's the room for nuance there? Some that stayed behind did so with no control over the situation. Now if you wanna back peddle and qualify your statement to include those that were able minded and bodied yet still stayed are idiots, go for it at a minimum it makes you seem a tiny bit humane.

 

So, do you mean to imply that every person or at least a majority of the people who didn't evacuate were either incapacitated or caring for the incapacitated?

 

Oh please, qualifiers now? The obvious in any emergency situation is to save the children, sick, incapacitated, and elderly first. I didn't think I had to qualify that for those that are suppose to have a moderate amount of intellect. I see now a qualifier is needed for all those that lack common sense.

Your comments and those made by du jac off to try and derail my point, do not negate the fact that civic leaders (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up, and failed the citizens, that is the bottom line.

 

I would suggest that the numbers of those that either did not evacuate or make their way over to the government suggested gathering places (civic center, stadium) that were incapacitated or caring for them would be a percentage that is measurable, not a majority but a statistically measurable amount.

 

Hmmm but you just said it was all the fault of the "idiots" that stayed there. Now it's the civic leaders fault... make up your mind...

Oh yeah that's right the GOVERNOR of New Orleans was mentioned before... carry on.

 

wrong again, i was defending the truth about what happened during katrina, against your bs and ignorance

 

I helps if you are trying to be clear when speaking in absolutes.

My only point is whatever the government function there are always people that deserve the help of said government function.

 

Still waiting for your whining example? The truth is only your truth, not the truth. I have read many different accounts, so obviously there is a different perspective or paradigm, but of course, you are the absolute truth.

 

I would agree with you on this one, but in discussions such as this one, people usually discuss the majority group. Repeatedly bringing up a group implies that they represent the majority, while in this case they are more likely a tiny minority.

This tactic is common, but not right or accurate. Consider the discussion of unions. Anti-union people bring up union members who do drugs on their lunch breaks. This is likely a tiny percentage of union members, but repeatedly bringing it up implies that all or most union members do drugs during breaks.

So, back to the Katrina "victims". While a small population was incapable of evacuating, and therefore not responsible for their situation, the majority of the people who stayed behind have no one to blame but themselves and deserved what they got for not listening to the government's warnings and choosing to try to weather the storm.

 

every post you make is a whine of ignorance, face it, you weren't anywhere near new orleans when katrina hit and you have no clue what you're talking about, all you're doing is applying fallacious political rhetoric to the issues

 

There you go with the words again. The governments responsibility is to protect it's citizens, that is priority one. The citizens were warned well in advance, and it was the governments responsibility to make sure those that were incapacitated to move were moved. Those that chose to stay are indeed the idiots.

OK, start your little Chubby Checker Twist Again.

 

Funny, I suppose the thousands upon thousands of news print and film coverage is not up to par for your puny assessment. You must have been all over that place documenting and filming, you obviously seem to know every exact detail of what happened.

Why do you insist I whine when you can't post an example? You just don't like my response, and therefore find it necessary to call foul because I disagree with you.

 

You see with all those qualifiers you suggest before calling those that stayed idiots... you sound rational, and with a few disagreements I agree completely with your statement above. Was that so hard

 

One one hundredth of one percent IS a statistically measurable amount, as is 5%. Leaving 95% to be classified as "the idiots that stayed."

As a resident of the hurricane target area and an experienced hurricane veteran, WE do not stay where a hurricane is expected to hit. To do so is moronic. Even though a hurricane had not hit our area for 55 years we were at Home Depot until 4AM getting plywood to cover our windows. That was a few years ago. We were on the other side of the state when the storm hit our area and tore off a piece of fascia from our boarded up house. Another storm a few years later took off large sections of our roof and one wall. We AGAIN, were not there. The government may or may not have told us to leave. But we, decided to leave, perhaps due to a smattering of intelligence on our part. All who stayed, FOR ANY REASON, are idiots. [Emergency and Rescue personnel excepted]
The rebuilt house now has steel shutters on every opening, the trusses and walls are heavily re-inforced and still, we have no intention of EVER "riding out a storm." in its target area.

The people of NOLA, and the City Administration of NOLA, were collective idiots for Katrina.

That is not saying that FEMA could not have done a better job. But locally sponsored chaos already reigned supreme before FEMA had a chance to do anything.

 

can you ever make a comment without coming up with a bunch of baseless crap?

 

Not at all, working for a solution or agreement is the objective, sometimes you just have to work a little harder.